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[Camron Rust]

#1. Regarding the RA, but didn't someone recently state that only the initial position in the RA is disallowed. If moving to maintain position takes the player into the RA, they fine? If that is the case, he started out of the RA and shifted to maintain position into the RA. Maybe not an RA play. ff that is wrong, then it is a block by being in the RA. It was close but I think he was in the path before the shooter jumped too....so no block for that reason.

#2. Legal screen. He may have firmed up at contact but didn't throw his shoulder into the screened player.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

#1. Regarding the RA, but didn't someone recently state that only the initial position in the RA is disallowed. If moving to maintain position takes the player into the RA, they fine? If that is the case, he started out of the RA and shifted to maintain position into the RA. Maybe not an RA play. ff that is wrong, then it is a block by being in the RA. It was close but I think he was in the path before the shooter jumped too....so no block for that reason.

This was sent to NCAAW in December. I would assume it's the same for NCAAM:

A secondary defender can establish guarding position in the restricted area then can re-establish legal guarding position outside the restricted area before the ball handler gets to (them). After re-establishing a guarding position outside the restricted area, the defender can then guard the ball handler legally and take a charge either inside or outside the restricted area.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

This was sent to NCAAW in December. I would assume it's the same for NCAAM:

You would likely be assuming incorrectly. Not because it might not be sent, but many things stated by the NCAA do not get sent to the other side or gender.

It was like that issue with the mat being close to the floor. I have never seen that video but on this site.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You would likely be assuming incorrectly. Not because it might not be sent, but many things stated by the NCAA do not get sent to the other side or gender.

It was like that issue with the mat being close to the floor. I have never seen that video but on this site.

Peace

Why does that not shock me? In a thread from last month someone thought you guys must have seen the traction mat video since the clip was taken from an NCAAM game!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Why does that not shock me? In a thread from last month someone thought you guys must have seen the traction mat video since the clip was taken from an NCAAM game!

I cannot speak for what others see, but these things were rare in my experience. Then again I do not work D1 basketball either where the video came from.

But you do realize that both genders have their own committees and supervisors?

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I cannot speak for what others see, but these things were rare in my experience. Then again I do not work D1 basketball either where the video came from.

But you do realize that both genders have their own committees and supervisors?

Peace

Beleve me, I don't do D1 either. I realize the staffs are separate but there are moments - few and far between - where they actually communicate with one another.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Beleve me, I don't do D1 either. I realize the staffs are separate but there are moments - few and far between - where they actually communicate with one another.

Well apparently not. And that is why I am not surprised what they say at the NCAAW side is not emphasized on the Men's side. There are two separate guidelines to officiating (and Arbiter sites) for God's sake.

And I have been in the room when John Adams has talked about Women's NCAA basketball. Maybe that is why I am not surprised.

Peace

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

#1. Regarding the RA, but didn't someone recently state that only the initial position in the RA is disallowed. If moving to maintain position takes the player into the RA, they fine? If that is the case, he started out of the RA and shifted to maintain position into the RA. Maybe not an RA play. ff that is wrong, then it is a block by being in the RA. It was close but I think he was in the path before the shooter jumped too....so no block for that reason.

#2. Legal screen. He may have firmed up at contact but didn't throw his shoulder into the screened player.

+1

I would add that in Play #1, we can't see the defender's left foot, and his right foot looks to be "just" outside the semi-circle. As for timing, I think the defender is just there. He buckles his right knee a bit, but he's not shifting after the shooter is airborne IMO