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grunewar Tue Mar 19, 2013 04:10am

BI on Joakim Noah (video)
 
What ya got.....?

Tom Thibodeau explodes after critical call goes against Bulls (VIDEO)

APG Tue Mar 19, 2013 04:53am

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NKg7O9fmQYo?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Correct call of goaltending made by the crew in real time and confirmed by replay

Jay R Tue Mar 19, 2013 05:18am

One announcer so badly wants it to be the wrong call:)

JetMetFan Tue Mar 19, 2013 05:49am

I thought GT on the original angle. It's not as though the ball was going to change direction without any help.

If Noah had any guts, he would've told his coach he touched it so the guy wouldn't have nearly burst a blood vessel when the crew made its ruling.

stiffler3492 Tue Mar 19, 2013 06:36am

What's the rule that came into play here? Looked to me like the ball was halfway in the cylinder, if that makes sense.

APG Tue Mar 19, 2013 06:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 885288)
What's the rule that came into play here? Looked to me like the ball was halfway in the cylinder, if that makes sense.

NBA:

No player may not touch the ball anytime a ball, from the playing area, is on its downward flight with a chance a score.

stiffler3492 Tue Mar 19, 2013 07:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 885289)
NBA:

No player may not touch the ball anytime a ball, from the playing area, is on its downward flight with a chance a score.

Ah, gotcha.

Seems pretty black and white to me.

Raymond Tue Mar 19, 2013 07:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 885284)
I thought GT on the original angle. It's not as though the ball was going to change direction without any help.

If Noah had any guts, he would've told his coach he touched it so the guy wouldn't have nearly burst a blood vessel when the crew made its ruling.

Everyone knew Noah touched the ball, everybody not knowing the rule is what caused the announcers and Thibodeaux to sound/look like fools.

ballgame99 Tue Mar 19, 2013 08:54am

Bulls fans need to ask themselves, would they have wanted goaltending if a defender had gone up and swatted that ball away? If so, then the offensive guy can't go up and do the same thing, right? That ball looked a bit short, but it still had a chance.

Raymond Tue Mar 19, 2013 09:24am

And it's a violation in NFHs rule set also. Makes no distinction as to whether it's an offensive or defensive player:

Rule: 4-22


Goaltending occurs when a player touches the ball during a field-goal try or tap while it is in its downward flight entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket in flight, or an opponent of the free thrower touches the ball outside the cylinder during a free-throw attempt.

MathReferee Tue Mar 19, 2013 09:25am

Obviously goaltending, but was Thibodeau more upset over the no call a couple plays earlier when Denver did a similar act?

MD Longhorn Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:32am

Blatant goaltending, and idiotic commentary --- even by commentary's normal standards of idiocy.

APG Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 885316)
Blatant goaltending, and idiotic commentary --- even by commentary's normal standards of idiocy.

They were too caught up in the offensive basket interference portion of the play (which is a valid consideration on this play)...and didn't realize...or probably don't know that the same goaltending restrictions that apply to the defense apply to the offense. Not sure if most commentators know it either.

#olderthanilook Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinRef (Post 885309)
Obviously goaltending, but was Thibodeau more upset over the no call a couple plays earlier when Denver did a similar act?

Video please. :D

referee99 Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:00am

My thought process...
 
... downward flight... chance to go in. Pretty simple.


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