Another buzzer beater?

[SAJ]

Discussion of buzzer beaters today brought this back to memory from last years Nebraska D2 State Championship game. Looks to be shot after the light, but was counted. I'm not sure the officials had the same replay freezeframe the tv audience had and from the screen they appeared to looking at it was probably a tougher call.

Jump to 2:20 for the shot.

[JRutledge]

It was late. It should not have counted. Not sure how they counted that shot honestly.

Peace

[APG]

I have to assume they didn't get the same views that we did (which I'd have to ask why if that was the case) cause that was clearly late.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by APG

I have to assume they didn't get the same views that we did (which I'd have to ask why if that was the case) cause that was clearly late.

They are usually dependent on the TV feed.

Peace

[zm1283]

The official that signaled it after they went to the monitor looked like Richard Nixon with the two fingered signal. Then I think he thought the game was over because he started running off the court. I am with Rut....I don't know how you count that after watching the replay. It was pretty conclusive.

The White team's coach looks like he's going to prom too.

[deecee]

this wasn't even close IMO.

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

They are usually dependent on the TV feed.

Peace

Exactly...so I'm not sure what the issue is here. That's clearly and obviously a late shot and was so evidently late that I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt to the 3 officials there and hope they didn't get the same views somehow.

[APG]

It's also possible they looked at the TV clock instead of looking at the LED lights/game clock and based their decision off of that.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by APG

It's also possible they looked at the TV clock instead of looking at the LED lights/game clock and based their decision off of that.

This is probably what happened. These officials have probably never used replay before in their careers and are therefore in a bad spot because they are probably unfamiliar with the rules and practical application of using replay to make these types of calls. This situation reminds me of the states that use 2-man throughout the regular season and maybe the beginning of the playoffs, and then switch to 3-man and expect the officials to be experts at the system. It is really kind of ridiculous to expect officials who never use replay system to all of a sudden be thrown into a situation where they have replay available and expect them to completely understand how to use it.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by johnny d

This is probably what happened. These officials have probably never used replay before in their careers and are therefore in a bad spot because they are probably unfamiliar with the rules and practical application of using replay to make these types of calls. This situation reminds me of the states that use 2-man throughout the regular season and maybe the beginning of the playoffs, and then switch to 3-man and expect the officials to be experts at the system. It is really kind of ridiculous to expect officials who never use replay system to all of a sudden be thrown into a situation where they have replay available and expect them to completely understand how to use it.

Whether or not you don't have replay experience the rule is that the LED lights trumps the horn, unless I misread that rule.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

Whether or not you don't have replay experience the rule is that the LED lights trumps the horn, unless I misread that rule.

That also might be something you want to review when you are working a situation where a LED light might come into play.

Peace

[SCalScoreKeeper]

No good-not even close.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

No good-not even close.

??? Not good. OK. But "Not even close"? I beg to differ. Razor thin in real time...and in slow mo replay.

[SamG]

Originally Posted by APG

It's also possible they looked at the TV clock instead of looking at the LED lights/game clock and based their decision off of that.

APG, I apologize for (almost) everything I said in the other thread. I honestly didn't know there was that much of a discrepancy between clocks in an arena.

FWIW, I know TV shoots the scoreboard so they can make sure they have the score right. I can see someone thinking "why set up the shot clock camera, the clock's on the scoreboard?" for a HS game. Not that I do a lot of games, but I will advocate for using the clock above the backboard for any games I work.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

??? Not good. OK. But "Not even close"? I beg to differ. Razor thin in real time...and in slow mo replay.

In real time, can see why they'd have counted it (I didn't when I first saw it but that's beside the point). On replay? It wasn't even close...not even a little bit (which is what I'm assuming SCal was referring to).

Originally Posted by SamG

APG, I apologize for (almost) everything I said in the other thread. I honestly didn't know there was that much of a discrepancy between clocks in an arena.

FWIW, I know TV shoots the scoreboard so they can make sure they have the score right. I can see someone thinking "why set up the shot clock camera, the clock's on the scoreboard?" for a HS game. Not that I do a lot of games, but I will advocate for using the clock above the backboard for any games I work.

No need to apologize.