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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 04:04pm
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Wow. Take a look at this...

This Is One Of The Craziest Buzzer-Beaters You Will Ever See

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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 04:07pm
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On the replays, note the discrepancy between the LED lights and the clock superimposed on the broadcast.
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 04:13pm
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After he counts the game winning basket, watch the referee put his whistle, and lanyard, underneath his uniform shirt as he hustles out of the the gymnasium. I guess that he doesn't want to be a movie star.

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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 04:28pm
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After he counts the game winning basket, watch the referee put his whistle, and lanyard, underneath his uniform shirt as he hustles out of the the gymnasium.[/IMG]
Yeah, two of the three officials ran off together as the one was still on the floor.......
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 04:30pm
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This was in New York. Do they not allow video review for buzzer beaters in the state tournament?
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 04:45pm
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Yeah, two of the three officials ran off together as the one was still on the floor.
Maybe he thought that he was across the border in Massachusetts.
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 05:23pm
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This was in New York. Do they not allow video review for buzzer beaters in the state tournament?
For boys, only in the state semis or finals. For girls, not at all.

This situation reflects a huge flaw in the rule itself. If you're going to have H.S. tournament games in NCAA gyms then you need to allow video review in those games if it's available. Either that or you have to shut of the LEDs on the backboard. Making a judgment based on sight/sound with a buzzer isn't easy but we're used to it. With the LEDs - since they take precedence - you're really making that judgment on "sight/sight." It's not easy to do with a video monitor, let alone without one.
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 05:23pm
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SMH!!!

Look like he got it off as of the clock. Not sure the light and the clock were in sync like we have seen before. It finally shows how close this can be. This is also one time I have no problem with the officials hugging it out to have a discussion.

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For boys, only in the state semis or finals. For girls, not at all.
On the video, it doesn't *look* like they ever go to the video, but maybe they did quickly when they were off camera. The one official waved it off right away. If they didn't look at the video, I wonder what was said in the quick huddle to change the call.
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 05:54pm
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Something similar happened in a Sectional Final in Illinois last year. Instead there was a wave off after a conference when the calling official counted the basket (The video is on YouTube).

I am not a big fan of changing calls on the last second shot. But I am certainly away of when you are sending a team home, get it right. I think in this case they got it right. I would rather the officials huddle or make a call if it is very close.

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On the video, it doesn't *look* like they ever go to the video, but maybe they did quickly when they were off camera. The one official waved it off right away. If they didn't look at the video, I wonder what was said in the quick huddle to change the call.
I'm sure they didn't check if only because the guy doing the broadcast would've said something. That and the fact all of them would've gotten into lots of trouble if they had.
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Kind of wild that the official who originally waved it off got the crew together to talk about it. He certainly must have had his doubts. Good job to change the call.
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 06:33pm
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Lights and imposed clocks from TV broadcast tend not to be in sync...just watch any NBA/NCAA game when there's a shot clock violation or end of period/half. Not unusual to see the TV clock off by .1-.2. seconds.
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 06:43pm
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The best I could slow it down (stop & go in YouTube), I see it still in his hand as the lights come on and the clock goes to 0.0. But the clock superimposed is behind by .1 if you compare to the clock on the backboard, hence why the common-taters are think he got it off.

As to why they changed the call, I don't want to speculate. Who would have had a better view that the T for this. I thought he waved it off appropriately. Was it the T that then reports the counting of the 3 after the conference?
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Old Sun Mar 03, 2013, 06:49pm
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Lights and imposed clocks from TV broadcast tend not to be in sync...just watch any NBA/NCAA game when there's a shot clock violation or end of period/half. Not unusual to see the TV clock off by .1-.2. seconds.
That is normally the case because in those games, the broadcast is using a computer generated clock controlled by their own technician. It isn't electronically tied to the official clock...they just try to mimic the real thing. So, they can easily be off a small amount. That is why when ever they go to replay over timing issues, they look at an official clock or indicator, not the TV clock.


The difference in this case is that the superimposed clock was actually just inset image of the actual game clock....same lights, same font, same color, etc.

The only explanation of this is that the broadcast equipment was maladjusted....or the image was of a different clock in the arena (perhaps on the other end) and the in arena clocks were not in sync with each other.
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