Clip(s): Kansas v. Iowa State

[mj]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't get people that work a high C. What's the benefit, really? FT line to FT line is only 64 feet and unlike when you're the T, there's no huge hurry to stay in front of the play.

Agree here. Because if the L does rotate, I don't know whether or not they know it because they don't need to move at all.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Btw, I couldn't disagree more with the notion that the officials "blew the game" for ISU.

Yes ISU had time to recover with a full 5 minutes left in that game. They did not do so very well. But I think that those two no-call, call helped KU go to overtime. If you call the charge, ISU wins the game. If you do not call the foul after players on on the floor, then you do not send them to the line. I think when you make a call it really has to be there and that was not there. And as someone said if they pass on the foul that put KU on the line, we are not even talking about this situation or game and the play is not making national news either. This is why you can have a great 31 minutes and 30seconds (or 39 minutes and 30 seconds) and no one remembers what you did in that time when you have big plays at the end of the game. We are not even talking about the foul that took place where the wrong player was given a foul a few minutes before these this drive and foul.

A good lesson to learn.

Peace

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes ISU had time to recover with a full 5 minutes left in that game. They did not do so very well. But I think that those two no-call, call helped KU go to overtime. If you call the charge, ISU wins the game. If you do not call the foul after players on on the floor, then you do not send them to the line. I think when you make a call it really has to be there and that was not there. And as someone said if they pass on the foul that put KU on the line, we are not even talking about this situation or game and the play is not making national news either. This is why you can have a great 31 minutes and 30seconds (or 39 minutes and 30 seconds) and no one remembers what you did in that time when you have big plays at the end of the game. We are not even talking about the foul that took place where the wrong player was given a foul a few minutes before these this drive and foul.

A good lesson to learn.

Peace

The final "pie in the face" on the whole night would've been if the KU player who should've fouled out had been the guy involved in the block/charge non-call.

[APG]

I've interacted with the only person in the world that thinks this play should be a block (via YouTube on the page for the video). Mind is blown.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by APG

I've interacted with the only person in the world that thinks this play should be a block (via YouTube on the page for the video). Mind is blown.

Must be a blind Kansas fan.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by APG

I've interacted with the only person in the world that thinks this play should be a block (via YouTube on the page for the video). Mind is blown.

Gotta love his comment about not being a block if the defender had moved INTO the shooter instead of falling away from him!

[zm1283]

We have a chucklehead fill-in radio host on a local afternoon sports radio show that was talking about this game today. He had a few callers spouting off about it too. All they could figure out was that it must have had something to do with Tim Donaghy and the NBA scandal. Of course they had no idea that they Lead didn't pinch, the Center was too high and didn't come in and get it when the Lead passed on it, etc....just that the officials are corrupt.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'm "sure" it's two getting discilined because even though T could have saved the crew it wasn't really his call. That is, he could have improved his evaluation by making the call, but doesn't get a poorer evaluation by not making it.

Say the trail had made the call, what would the locker room conversation be like?

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Say the trail had made the call, what would the locker room conversation be like?

(By L and C) "We owe you copious amounts of beverages for that one. Thank you for saving our a$$es." That's about as big of a non-administrative crew-save call as it gets. I can't imagine anything other than gratitude and acceptance.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Say the trail had made the call, what would the locker room conversation be like?

L and C would/should say, "thanks for coming to get that. I got stuck and didnt have a good look."

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

(By L and C) "We owe you copious amounts of beverages for that one. Thank you for saving our a$$es." That's about as big of a non-administrative crew-save call as it gets. I can't imagine anything other than gratitude and acceptance.

That's what it should be.

Too often though, it might be "stay the hell out of my area" or "I'm the big dog and I don't need you p***ing on my tree." Followed by "yeah, well if you would make the effing call I wouldn't have to do that."

I don't know (very well) any of the personalities involved in this scenario, so I can't say what would have happened.

[Tio]

With the game on the line, as a crew we MUST get the obvious fouls. Everyone sees this play and know it needs a whistle. If the lead freezes, then someone needs to call a foul, ideally the center but if the trail has to come get it then so be it. We need to remember that our duties are (in the order of importance): 1. To do what is right for the game 2. To do what is right for the crew 3. To do what is right for ourselves.

You can't worry about hurting someone's feelings on an obvious play the game needs.