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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:05pm
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Only illegal one I have is the 2nd one...and on the first play I have a defensive foul on the defender after the screen.

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I agree with you on Plays 1 and 3. But I would have a pushing/blocking foul on W14 against B25 before B25 can set his screen.

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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:48pm
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Only illegal one I have is the 2nd one...and on the first play I have a defensive foul on the defender after the screen.
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:35pm
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1. Legal - legs are 'wide' but runs smack into screener's torso area anyway.

2. Fifty shades of illegal.

3. Illegal - screener would have been good but eliminated the necessary time/distance by moving forward into the defender.

As for the 2-person/3-person argument - no question 3 whistles is better...but the screens all happen directly in front of trail. Even the second one, which is blatantly illegal, the Trail sees the whole play, but passes - he even shakes his head to confirm he is passing.
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:39pm
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1. Legal - legs are 'wide' but runs smack into screener's torso area anyway.
May I suggest reviewing the screening rules? The wide base is not a legal position, and responsibility for contact falls on the screener.
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:46pm
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May I suggest reviewing the screening rules? The wide base is not a legal position, and responsibility for contact falls on the screener.
ONLY if the contact is on the extended leg. If the contact is on the torso, the legs could be a far out as they can get them. The following could still be a legal screen depending on where the contact occurs...

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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:40pm
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3. Illegal - screener would have been good but eliminated the necessary time/distance by moving forward into the defender.
Really? Just don't see that at all. He was back peddling down the court, stopped to let the defender run into him then continued backing down the court. I just don't see him moving toward the defender at all.
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May I suggest reviewing the screening rules? The wide base is not a legal position, and responsibility for contact falls on the screener.
May I suggest applying the rules realistically instead of seeing everything in black and white?

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Really? Just don't see that at all. He was back peddling down the court, stopped to let the defender run into him then continued backing down the court. I just don't see him moving toward the defender at all.
It's not a big move; the feet are set but screener makes a forward motion with his upper body; very slight, and definitely not egregious. A 50/50 one for sure. With T's floor-level view, might have a different opinion, not sure.
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1. Legal - legs are 'wide' but runs smack into screener's torso area anyway.
Call it early and they clean it up.
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Call it early and they clean it up.
I do believe it is an illegal screen but are you suggesting that a foul be called when a screen is was legal but ugly?
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:03pm
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2 and 3 illegal. 1, although legs are extended, contact is centered and initiated by defender. I'm not calling that. That said,I'm not locking horns with anyone if someone sees it the other way.
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2 and 3 illegal. 1, although legs are extended, contact is centered and initiated by defender. I'm not calling that. That said,I'm not locking horns with anyone if someone sees it the other way.
You might want to look at #1 again...the screener also threw his shoulder into the defender in addition to being late.
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