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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:17pm
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You might want to look at #1 again...the screener also threw his shoulder into the defender in addition to being late.
I dunno, Camron - if he does, it's about the same level of "throwing" of the body that occurs in play #3 IMO
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:21pm
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I dunno, Camron - if he does, it's about the same level of "throwing" of the body that occurs in play #3 IMO
Not at all. I think the guy in #3 just stopped and stood up. The screener in #1 drove his shoulder into the defender. The screen in #1 was bad for 2-3 reasons. That is just one of them but puts the icing on the cake.
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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:24pm
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Not at all. I think the guy in #3 just stopped and stood up. The screener in #1 drove his shoulder into the defender. The screen in #1 was bad for 2-3 reasons. That is just one of them but puts the icing on the cake.
The guy didn't "just stand up". His chest area "clearly" moves into the defender.

And by "clearly" I mean about as "clearly" as the alleged shoulder in play #1.

In neither play is the alleged movement really obvious. That's why I think they're both 50/50 types of plays.

In the end, both plays #1 and #3 are going to be passed on and called - in both cases I'm willing to bet peoples' opinions are going to be split.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:02pm
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2 and 3 illegal. 1, although legs are extended, contact is centered and initiated by defender. I'm not calling that. That said,I'm not locking horns with anyone if someone sees it the other way.
After further review and copius notes, #1 illegal, #3 maybe not so, but I'm sure game situation, I'd probably call it.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:08am
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I would not have an illegal screen on any of those three screens.
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:39am
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I would not have an illegal screen on any of those three screens.
Why not?
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Old Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:39am
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Why not?
I thought the illegality of each one was marginal. Mostly I saw feet too wide, but it wasn't egregious in my opinion.

Also I felt the players were pretty well rehearsed in faking the amount of actual contact. This is pretty evident by the first screen, if you watch the offense on that play, he throws his body back like he got clobbered by the defense and he even hits the ground.
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