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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:03pm
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Thankfully, officials where I live are free to work all boys games, all girls games, or a mixture. Nobody is forced to work any games they may not want to work.

Personally, I worked about 70% boys this season and will be working 100% this year. After working nothing but boys games for 3 weeks, I really struggled with the (slower) pace and the differing expectations of the girls game.

I'd be thrilled if we were licensed separately in the two genders - as is done with baseball and softball. At least when someone calls me to cover a softball game, I can quickly say "I am not licensed in softball" and it ends the conversation. When someone asks me to work a girls game, I have to be more careful in how I respond. "I don't work girls games" is not taken well by some people.
As you know there are no restrictions here either, but people just choose not to work both or certain assigners do not consider an official good enough to work boys basketball or certain conference level basketball. And right now the 1A/2A girls state finals are going on this weekend, well people like me would never want to work that stuff and would have to choose on some level as the boys 3A/4A season just ended last night. We just have a choice and I feel blessed that I can choose what to work when I leave my house.

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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:24pm
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As you know there are no restrictions here either, but people just choose not to work both or certain assigners do not consider an official good enough to work boys basketball or certain conference level basketball. And right now the 1A/2A girls state finals are going on this weekend, well people like me would never want to work that stuff and would have to choose on some level as the boys 3A/4A season just ended last night. We just have a choice and I feel blessed that I can choose what to work when I leave my house.

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Yup, I know the scene down there, too. We used to work for 2 assignors down there (one of whom was a great guy and I was sorry to hear he passed a couple of years back). In 5 years down there, we never worked a girls game, come to think of it.

I see no need to force someone to work a girls game just so "they get good refs too." The officials shouldn't be forced to work games they don't want to work. Most officials here work both. Some work only boys, some work only girls. No big deal, really.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:59pm
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Yup, I know the scene down there, too. We used to work for 2 assignors down there (one of whom was a great guy and I was sorry to hear he passed a couple of years back). In 5 years down there, we never worked a girls game, come to think of it.

I see no need to force someone to work a girls game just so "they get good refs too." The officials shouldn't be forced to work games they don't want to work. Most officials here work both. Some work only boys, some work only girls. No big deal, really.
The only people that really make a big deal about that are people that only work girls games in my experience and have to justify their place in the pecking order of recognition. Usually when I am asked about not working girls basketball, it is usually those officials that make a big deal out of that fact. Otherwise it is not much of an issue. As I said we have different classes and someone working a 1A boys game is not necessarily qualified to work 3A or 4A ball with D1 players and above the rim play common. It is more about ability of what you are used to than anything. Gender only is a one part of that equation.

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Old Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:22pm
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Yup, I know the scene down there, too. We used to work for 2 assignors down there (one of whom was a great guy and I was sorry to hear he passed a couple of years back). In 5 years down there, we never worked a girls game, come to think of it.

I see no need to force someone to work a girls game just so "they get good refs too." The officials shouldn't be forced to work games they don't want to work. Most officials here work both. Some work only boys, some work only girls. No big deal, really.

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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:23pm
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Because boys have three man and girls don't, the girls never see the best refs.
The girls never see the best refs because its a girls game. Just a fact. Most officials, if asked what they would rather work, will answer boys.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:09pm
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"While it was far from unanimous, the boys coaches voted to try a three-official crew in 2008, while the girls coaches voted not to go that route."

I stopped reading there.

Over 20 years ago, the NCHSAA said, "We will use 3 person crews for ALL varsity games." End of debate.
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Old Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:13pm
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"While it was far from unanimous, the boys coaches voted to try a three-official crew in 2008, while the girls coaches voted not to go that route."

I stopped reading there.

Over 20 years ago, the NCHSAA said, "We will use 3 person crews for ALL varsity games." End of debate.
Since the coaches voted not to use 3-man, they can't complain.
They had a chance and passed. Now they get exactly what they asked for.
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Old Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:21am
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Because boys have three man and girls don't, the girls never see the higher ranked officials.
(Fixed it for you.)
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Old Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:28am
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This Wednesday-Saturday is our section finals.All games done in 3 person when regular-season execpt for a handful of tournaments is 2 person.Good luck to all 66 officials who will get to work a final.
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Old Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:24am
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This Wednesday-Saturday is our section finals.All games done in 3 person when regular-season execpt for a handful of tournaments is 2 person.Good luck to all 66 officials who will get to work a final.
Thank you, all of us will be hoping for the best this week. The games will be intense.
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