Resting on the flange
 

1st rd playoff game tonight. After all these years of officiating, I finally witnessed with mine own two eyes, the ball coming to rest on the flange ... on a free throw attempt nonetheless :eek:. Wish I had video.

Interesting....

Once saw a FT wedgie.

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Ah, the joys of physics!

I had this happen on a shooting foul two years ago in a HS game. It was pretty funny to watch everyone in anticipation as to whether or not it was gonna fall in for an "and 1" and then the unanimous gasp from the crowd when it just sat there.

They could easily avoid this by designing the flange to not be flat. They could either tilt it or put a small bump in the middle of hit such that a ball that lands on it can't stay on it.

For as often as this happens, I think they should just leave it alone. The rim manufacturers may disagree, but I think it is looking for a solution for a problem that does not exist.

And I think it's a great solution to, admittedly, a very small problem.

Maybe we should take a poll.

After the leg sleeve issue is resolved, please.:cool:

I'm fine with that too, just pointing out that it is very easy to solve...and they don't have to make it mandatory on old rim...just as they get replaced.

My son is a welder.

Picturing a national tour for him...........

Imagine if you were waiting to see if it went in before you called a foul.

I've had this happen a few times. Last year it happened in a GMS game. I couldn't get any of the girls to jump up and knock the ball down. :(

I presume that you let the clock run out unless the game was tied.

When I played in HS, '60's, I got on a ladder, with a ball, and verified that it was impossible for the ball to stop on the flange. Then, when they replaced the rims at our HS, the new apparatus had an additional 1/4" plate added at the back of the rim, as reinforcement to help protect the glass backboards from breaking when the ball was dunked. That added depth allowed the ball to come to rest on the flange, but also made it "6 1/4" from the plane of the face of the backboard to the nearest point of the inside of the ring," (see NFHS 1-11-1 and I suspect that a measurement of current rims would so verify.
Yes, I do get accused of being anal at times. . .

Early in my career this happened a few times. I remember it happen twice in one game. I have not seen it much at all since.

Peace

I had this happen once this year. BMS on a layup attempt. Player laid it up real soft and it just stayed on the flange. Tried to get a cheer leader to jump up and knock it off of the flange, but she declined. Had a fan come out of the stands and he knocked it off. No I did not issue a technical foul on the fan for coming out on the court. I actually thanked him for his service!

We had one the other night.

Someone retrieved a ball to knock it off and I handed it to a player to do the honors. A man's got to know his limitations, especially in front of 1000 or so of his "closest friends." Besides, I don't think it looks all that dignified for the official to do something like this while everyone is watching -- I feel the same about an official that chases after a loose ball, too.

Those are our instructions, too, be it resting or wedged between glass and ring. I also had my first such rest this year, and I forgot said instruction and handled it myself.

We need instructions in order to not embarrass ourselves? :D

Some of us do... for reference, see any of our "that guy" threads. :D

I don't know what that means. :confused:

Yes. You. Do.