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scrounge Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:43pm

Ohio St-Minny half-ending 3 pt shot
 
Any video of the half-ending shot by Aaron Craft? He drives up court, seems to come to a jump stop then takes a small step before shooting a successful 3 pt. Missed call or too much of a baby travel to call in that situation? Not a jump step at all?

OKREF Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrounge (Post 880828)
Any video of the half-ending shot by Aaron Craft? He drives up court, seems to come to a jump stop then takes a small step before shooting a successful 3 pt. Missed call or too much of a baby travel to call in that situation? Not a jump step at all?

When did he gather the ball? Before leaving the floor or after? Did he land on both feet at the same time?

scrounge Thu Feb 21, 2013 07:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 880830)
When did he gather the ball? Before leaving the floor or after? Did he land on both feet at the same time?

I thought he gathered the ball, jumped off his right foot, then landed on both feet and took an additional (small) step with his left before shooting. A buddy thought he came to a two-foot stop without a jump and could still pivot. I couldn't find video to check again and can't access youtube/video at work now, but I thought it was a jump stop and step but would be curious what others thought.

I can't access the video in this link but my buddy said it can be seen here.

Minnesota Golden Gophers vs. Ohio State Buckeyes - Recap - February 20, 2013 - ESPN

JetMetFan Thu Feb 21, 2013 09:53am

Here's the play...
 
<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gmguq2O6sgw?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Raymond Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:13am

If he gathered in the air not a travel. If he gathered before he jumped then it's a walk but he was going so fast I'd be hard pressed to get it right.

Bad Zebra Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:02am

Waaaaay too close in real time to nit pick. I'd likely leave it alone.

fullor30 Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:07am

Jetmetfan,

Never thought I'd say this to a NY fan but if we ever bump into each other the first 4,5 rounds are on me. These videos are invaluable and I've always felt the more video you watch, you train your eyes to react. We can read the written word or be told what contitutes LPG or the like, but nothing beats reviewing actual plays.


Please stick around this site.

THANK YOU!!

fullor30 Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:10am

I don't see a travel. I'd rather miss one than make one up.

The mere fact we have varying opinions says leave it alone

rekent Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:11am

I think I see the travel, maybe... possibly... if I really look for it. No certainty whatsoever though because of his body blocking the camera view.

Same as said above, cold day when I would be calling that.

Fed2You Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:24am

I watched this live last night (as i am a HUGE Buckeyes fan) and I also rewound it about 5 times and watched it from 2 feet away from my tv. The video above is kind of blurry, but IMO, he came down with both feet, stutter stepped with his left, but kept his right firmly in place.

I got no travel. (Trying my hardest not to be biased!) :D

Adam Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:41am

It looks to me like he probably gathers with this feet in the air (immediately after juming) and lands on both feet. He gets a pivot at this point, so I got nothing. It's possible I'm wrong, since the shooter's body screens my view, but the T has a great view. It's either legal, or just too close to call.

I don't want to hang my hat on a call that looks legal in real time but might possibly be a travel in slow motion.

Camron Rust Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:44am

I think he caught the ball after jumping so he had the liberty to land on both and pivot on either. No travel.

deecee Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:45am

No call, too close to tell even in slo mo.

Rich Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:59am

We're only having this discussion because Tubby Smith was trying to buy a call at the end of the first half.

(Just like happens to us all the time in games when we work.)

Adam Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 880939)
We're only having this discussion because Tubby Smith was trying to buy a call at the end of the first half.

(Just like happens to us all the time in games when we work.)

I think he coaches freshman girls here, then.

JetMetFan Thu Feb 21, 2013 02:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 880907)
Jetmetfan,

Never thought I'd say this to a NY fan but if we ever bump into each other the first 4,5 rounds are on me. These videos are invaluable and I've always felt the more video you watch, you train your eyes to react. We can read the written word or be told what contitutes LPG or the like, but nothing beats reviewing actual plays.


Please stick around this site.

THANK YOU!!

You'll live to regret that drink offer :D

Not a problem. We all learn from video whether it's of ourselves or others. You should really thank APG. If it wasn't for him posting plays it wouldn't have reminded me I work in TV (duh) and I have an editing program on my home cpu. I only wish I could get them up here faster. The discussions definitely make us all think more when we're on the court.

HawkeyeCubP Thu Feb 21, 2013 05:11pm

Holy crud that's close. I thought I liked a travel the first time through, but after three more, I'm leaning toward "I had the dribble ending when the feet were in the air, coach. When he lands, either foot can then be the pivot."

APG Thu Feb 21, 2013 05:26pm

I've got nothing at all...not even close IMO.

constable Thu Feb 21, 2013 09:51pm

no travel.

If we are needing to dissect a travel frame by frame, we should probably pass on it.


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