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26 Year Gap Wed Feb 20, 2013 07:38pm

Congrats to Bad Zebra!
 
He was selected to officiate the Florida 7A Girls final in Lakeland. This is the second largest classification in the state.

JRutledge Wed Feb 20, 2013 07:46pm

And "Atta Boy" for you BZ. Have a blast.

Peace

OKREF Wed Feb 20, 2013 07:47pm

Awesome. Congratulations.

Welpe Wed Feb 20, 2013 08:02pm

Must not be too bad then. :)

Congrats!

And 7A is the second largest classification?!

26 Year Gap Wed Feb 20, 2013 08:08pm

8A is the largest. They went from 6 to 8 last year.

Triad zebra Wed Feb 20, 2013 08:21pm

Congrats BZ... Best of luck and HAVE FUN!!!

JRutledge Wed Feb 20, 2013 08:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 880795)
8A is the largest. They went from 6 to 8 last year.

How many schools do you guys have competing. They went to 4 classes from 2 and people here go nuts about how watered down the tournament has become. And everyone here makes the playoffs or plays in post season.

Peace

Camron Rust Wed Feb 20, 2013 08:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 880807)
How many schools do you guys have competing. They went to 4 classes from 2 and people here go nuts about how watered down the tournament has become. And everyone here makes the playoffs or plays in post season.

Peace

And in Oregon, they went from 4 to 6 about 5 years ago. Oregon doesn't need 6 classes. 4 would be fine. There are only about 280 high schools in Oregon and they stack about 80 of the smallest schools in the 1A class and about 40 each in of the other 5 classes.

Soft of a combination between an every one gets a trophy mentality and believing that everyone in a class must have nearly equal enrollment to be fair.

26 Year Gap Wed Feb 20, 2013 08:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 880807)
How many schools do you guys have competing. They went to 4 classes from 2 and people here go nuts about how watered down the tournament has become. And everyone here makes the playoffs or plays in post season.

Peace

I would have to look it up, but there are 16 districts in each class, with the possible exception of 1A. Most districts contain 4-8 schools, although more have 4 or 5 than 8 or more. Each region has four districts and the regionals determine who goes to the state semis in Lakeland. There was more clamoring at the lower end of the scale and 1A is supposed to be 'rural' school category. The district tournaments are not as much of an event with only 4 or 5 schools instead of 7-9.

Raymond Wed Feb 20, 2013 09:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 880794)
Must not be too bad then. :)

Congrats!

And 7A is the second largest classification?!

Virginia only has 5 public school classifications, 6 starting next year, and 3 for private schools.

26 Year Gap Wed Feb 20, 2013 09:03pm

This is the link to watch on Saturday at 5 pm or so.
2013 FHSAA Class 7A Girls Basketball Finals (Event): Florida: PlayOn! Sports

Bad Zebra Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:37pm

Thank you all. Take pride in the fact that I consider this forum an element of the success I've had with my schedule the past couple years. This will be the biggest game of my career. I'm pretty confident but a little bit...let's say...anxious.

Just gotta remember to...breathe.

JRutledge Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 880825)
Thank you all. Take pride in the fact that I consider this forum an element of the success I've had with my schedule the past couple years. This will be the biggest game of my career. I'm pretty confident but a little bit...let's say...anxious.

Just gotta remember to...breathe.

I got this advice that I have taken with me each time I worked a State Final and I am sure it will help you. When you get to the court (or field), look around to where you are. Smell the coffee for a minute or two and realize you are at the State Finals. Then get to the job at hand. It is just another game but more people are watching. Have fun and DFIU!!! ;)

Peace

VaTerp Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:02pm

Congrats.

As our Vice President would say thats a Big Fn Deal!

BktBallRef Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 880810)
... believing that everyone in a class must have nearly equal enrollment to be fair.

That's not an unfair assessment.

In NC, our 1A schools' enrollment ranges from less than 100 students to 650+. Our 4A schools range from 1300 to 3000 students. That's definitely an unlevel playing field, even more so in football.

Congrats Bad Zebra!

APG Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:50pm

Guess they'll let anyone work a final. ;)

Seriously though, congrats on the assignment! http://forum.officiating.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

rockyroad Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:06am

Congrats BZ. Well deserved.

canuckrefguy Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:13am

Congrats BZ!

Hopefully no videos "for discussion" on here afterwards :D

APG Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 880860)
Congrats BZ!

Hopefully no videos "for discussion" on here afterwards :D

Where there's a will, there's a way. :p

Camron Rust Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 880842)
That's not an unfair assessment.

In NC, our 1A schools' enrollment ranges from less than 100 students to 650+. Our 4A schools range from 1300 to 3000 students. That's definitely an unlevel playing field, even more so in football.

Congrats Bad Zebra!

Perhaps so, but NC has over twice as many students and schools as Oregon and in in just half of the land area (and no big mountain ranges to cross to get to some of them). Yet, it has fewer classifications (4 vs 6). Oregon has one really large school over 3000 but it isn't particularly competitive in any sport that I know of and there are only 5 above 2000. The classes range from 100 and below for 1A and each class above that roughly doubles in size.

I agree it can work and isn't a bad idea if you have enough schools to actually do it. Here, there are not enough schools in some areas to even make a full league so they do some funky stuff to make it passable. It has been wacky enough that they're considering going back to 5.

BubbaRef Thu Feb 21, 2013 07:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 880834)
I got this advice that I have taken with me each time I worked a State Final and I am sure it will help you. When you get to the court (or field), look around to where you are. Smell the coffee for a minute or two and realize you are at the State Finals. Then get to the job at hand. It is just another game but more people are watching. Have fun and DFIU!!! ;)

Peace

When did you work the State Finals here in IL? I went 2 years ago in 3-4A and I am going back this year. Great experience that is for sure.

Yea the competition is definitely watered down. There is a local team that was roughly .500 on the season and was 5 points shy in the Super Sectional to making it to State.

JRutledge Thu Feb 21, 2013 08:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbaRef (Post 880876)
When did you work the State Finals here in IL? I went 2 years ago in 3-4A and I am going back this year. Great experience that is for sure.

Yea the competition is definitely watered down. There is a local team that was roughly .500 on the season and was 5 points shy in the Super Sectional to making it to State.


I have worked 3 State Finals in football (08', 11') and in baseball (09') but not basketball.

It may be watered down a little but no one in the country had 2 classes. Not surprised it was changed.

Peace

tomegun Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:52pm

Congrats BZ!

Zoochy Thu Feb 21, 2013 05:32pm

BZ... you da man!

MD Longhorn Thu Feb 21, 2013 05:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 880807)
How many schools do you guys have competing. They went to 4 classes from 2 and people here go nuts about how watered down the tournament has become. And everyone here makes the playoffs or plays in post season.

Peace

Each class in Florida has 3 schools in it, I believe.

(Shocked to see Florida has 8 classes. Texas has less)

Bad Zebra Fri Feb 22, 2013 09:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 881023)
Each class in Florida has 3 schools in it, I believe.

(Shocked to see Florida has 8 classes. Texas has less)

Actually, each class (1A through 8A) has 16 districts with 4-8 schools in each district. For 2012-2013, there are 601 schools that field a girls basketball team that belong to the FHSAA. The state tournament consists of the district winner and runner up. Thus it begins with 32 teams and winds down from there in each class. It takes a full week to play the semi-final and final in each class. It's a big state.

#olderthanilook Fri Feb 22, 2013 02:04pm

Congratulations, Bad Zebra!

Every time I see your name, this song plays in my head:

"Here come the jesters, 1 2 3. It's all part of my fantasy. I love the music and love to see the crowd dancin' in the aisles and singin' out loud!" :)

Bad Company - Rock and Roll Fantasy - YouTube

26 Year Gap Fri Feb 22, 2013 05:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 881023)
Each class in Florida has 3 schools in it, I believe.

(Shocked to see Florida has 8 classes. Texas has less)

Don't pee in the pool.

26 Year Gap Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:34pm

Here again is the link...2013 FHSAA Class 7A Girls Basketball Championship: Buchholtz vs Nova (Event): Florida: PlayOn! Sports Game time is 5:05 pm. It is archived, so maybe BZ will have some plays to point out later on. No, I will not know which one is him other than he is not the R.

26 Year Gap Sat Feb 23, 2013 06:21pm

last 3 minutes

Bad Zebra Sun Feb 24, 2013 01:11pm

Post Mortem
 
Well, this one is in the books. We made it through without any major gaffes or bad calls. As Rut said...we didn't FIU. FRom a personal standpoint, I was pretty distracted to start because of all the off court stuff we had to contend with beyond a normal game:
-TV Cameras on top of us at both endlines
-Cheerleaders crowding one endline
-Media time out procedure
-Visible and close proximity to the evaluator
-Instructed to get very close to table when reporting due to noise level

Couple all those with a big venue, dozens of media surrounding the court, super bright lighting and you've got a real pressure cooker. It took me most of the first half to settle and get comfortable. I was in a pretty foul mood at halftime but we all calmed down and finished strong, I think. My partners did a good job keeping their s*it together and we all kind of regrouped and adapted. I've earned a new respect for D1 guys that do it nightly.

The play itself was good and easy to call. The players were great and responsive...2 pt. game at half time but the better team pulled away and won by 15 or so. The talent level really made it easy to call. Each team had a D1 commit and they really stepped up and performed. Pretty impressive way for kids to respond, really. I'm sure they felt the same pressures we did (and more).

I had a few mechanical flaws in the first half...I'll attribute to nerves. Calling the play was the easiest part. The initial feedback was positive...our first evaluator noted some transitional contact that we let players play through, but I suspect the official evaluator may differ.

All in all, it was a great experience. I'd gladly do it again as I think I'd improve knowing what to expect. Thanks again for all the well wishes. Hope all of you that haven't yet will get to experience that environment at some point. I'll check this one off the bucket list.

Camron Rust Sun Feb 24, 2013 02:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 881571)
Well, this one is in the books. We made it through without any major gaffes or bad calls.....

Glad you had a good time....firsts like that can certainly raise your anxiety and it sounds like you got it under control and were successful. Hope there are more to come!

shavano Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:38am

Sounds like it was a great experience BZ. Congrats on making it there!

bainsey Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:06pm

First and foremost, congrats to BZ, and thanks for sharing.

This struck me the most curious...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 881571)
-Media time out procedure

I'd like to more about this facet. Before I took up officiating, I became a sideline reporter for our public TV network's coverage (my 12th year), so I'm something of a double agent.

We don't do media time-outs. We only take breaks between quarters and halftime. What's the format?

Bad Zebra Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 881731)
First and foremost, congrats to BZ, and thanks for sharing.

This struck me the most curious...



I'd like to more about this facet. Before I took up officiating, I became a sideline reporter for our public TV network's coverage (my 12th year), so I'm something of a double agent.

We don't do media time-outs. We only take breaks between quarters and halftime. What's the format?

Check your PM for specifics. Essentially, the first stoppage of play below 4:00 in each quarter triggered a media time out. Not especially complicated...but it was something new and additional to worry about getting right on top of everything else.

canuckrefguy Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:27pm

What? No video?

Dang. ;)

Sounds like a job well done, BZ!

Jay R Tue Feb 26, 2013 07:33am

Bad Zebra,

Congrats, that's what it's all about.

Ragarding your comments about all the extra stuff (related to TV and bright lights), I've had that experience and it can be overwhelming at first. You are right about the NCAA Division I officials, it's not just making the call but also managing everything else. I'm going to the AUS Men's Tournament this weekend (you canucks will know what that is) and it's played in an arena setting with televised games. It won't be my first time at that site but it is my first championship. It is the biggest appointment I've received so far. I'm quite excited.

In watching the video, it seemed that the officials were not always switching after fouls. As a FIBA official, I'm not familiar with NFHS mechanics.

BillyMac Tue Feb 26, 2013 07:48am

I Wear My Sunglasses At Night ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 881961)
Regarding your comments about all the extra stuff, related bright lights, I've had that experience and it can be overwhelming at first.

I once worked a AAU "game" during a McDonald's High School All American Game halftime intermission at the Hartford (CT) Civic Center (now the XL Center). The bright lights were definitely distracting. It was the first thing that I noticed as I stepped onto the court. I really wished that I had taken the time to put on my makeup that morning.

referee99 Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:00pm

which one are you?
 
BZ, watching the game on YouTube.
All of the officials are remarkably good looking!
Which one are you?

26 Year Gap Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy (Post 881920)
What? No video?

Dang. ;)

Sounds like a job well done, BZ!

I posted that link early in the thread. He was U1, btw. Plus, there is a link on another thread.

BillyMac Wed Feb 27, 2013 07:34am

When Did The Forum Turn Into Match.com ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 882140)
All of the officials are remarkably good looking! Which one are you?

Get a room.


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