Indiana v. Michigan State Clips

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I agree that it is a block in 2. However the basket was counted
Does anyone agree that the basket should count?

should not count, imo. The player travelled after the foul, and that should end the try. Absent the travel, count the basket.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

should not count, imo. The player travelled after the foul, and that should end the try. Absent the travel, count the basket.

Agreed.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

should not count, imo. The player travelled after the foul, and that should end the try. Absent the travel, count the basket.

Bob,
Based on your statement, "ending the TRY", you would wave off the basket (due to the travel), but still shoot two free throws since, by your statement, the try had indeed started, correct?

By the way, I happen to think that we count MANY baskets in precisely these scenarios BECAUSE we really don't have mechanics for indicating the player had STARTED the try for goal, BUT the foul caused a travel that SHOULD negate the basket. For example report to the table, Black 21, push, 2 shots, no basket, travel signal....Since we do not have any such mechanics, IF a shooter is clearly in the act of shooting when fouled, travels (regardless how noticeably), and MAKES the shot, referees disregard the travel and count the basket in virtually every case....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

Bob,
Based on your statement, "ending the TRY", you would wave off the basket (due to the travel), but still shoot two free throws since, by your statement, the try had indeed started, correct?

By the way, I happen to think that we count MANY baskets in precisely these scenarios BECAUSE we really don't have mechanics for indicating the player had STARTED the try for goal, BUT the foul caused a travel that SHOULD negate the basket. For example report to the table, Black 21, push, 2 shots, no basket, travel signal....Since we do not have any such mechanics, IF a shooter is clearly in the act of shooting when fouled, travels (regardless how noticeably), and MAKES the shot, referees disregard the travel and count the basket in virtually every case....

How often do you see this?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

Bob,
BECAUSE we really don't have mechanics for indicating the player had STARTED the try for goal, BUT the foul caused a travel that SHOULD negate the basket. ....

Sure we do. Wave your arms in front of your chest and state "no shot".

[Adam]

On #2, I've got defender jumping into the dribbler. I don't even think I'm shooting two, though, on this.