Players not in book

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I'm may not be picturing this right. You beckon the sub. He enters. Somebody tells the coach this player is not in the book. I think it's too late at this point to pull him back.

I agree with this. And on a side note, an illegal number such as 17, is a direct to the HC, thus loss of the box.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

On a side note, an illegal number such as 17, is a direct to the HC, thus loss of the box.

... and then the team member with the illegal uniform, and all his teammates with illegal uniforms, may participate without further penalty and are not required to change their numbers, as a maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I'm may not be picturing this right. You beckon the sub. He enters. Somebody tells the coach this player is not in the book. I think it's too late at this point to pull him back.

My only real point is it is not being beckoned that matters here; it's whether the sub enters. JetMetFan declared once he's "beckoned," it's too late. By rule, I don't think that's right.

Now, whether you'd allow the coach to withdraw the sub after the player came onto the court but before play was resumed (as I might) is another story.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Adam

My only real point is it is not being beckoned that matters here; it's whether the sub enters. JetMetFan declared once he's "beckoned," it's too late. By rule, I don't think that's right.

I'll buy this. But I think of those two events as happening at virtually the same time. It's hard for me to imagine the coach realizing the problem and grabbing the sub after the beckon.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I'll buy this. But I think of those two events as happening at virtually the same time. It's hard for me to imagine the coach realizing the problem and grabbing the sub after the beckon.

While this particular scenario is a long shot, it isn't uncommon to have a noticeable delay between a player being beckoned and actually entering the court: especially in high school.

I actually had a coach pull back a sub after I beckoned him Friday.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

JetMetFan declared once he's "beckoned," it's too late. By rule, I don't think that's right.

Interesting? I'm not disagreeing, but, which rule? Please expound upon your thought.