Block/charge video
 

It speaks for itself.

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Joey Crawford's grandson????

That was a PC all day and hopping up and down like that doesn't change it.

This can't be for real. The trail is definitely an actor from the comedy channel.

From that camera angle, I have PC.

And from how I was taught, T has primary whistle on that play (although he should quit going to Joey C.'s camps) I think L has a much better look at it though

They should at least do the correct thing and go with the blarge.

Easy PC.

I don't really remember how this is taught in two person but the L had the defender all the way and was making the correct call.

Its pretty obvious the T never picked up the defender, is looking through at least two bodies, and just flat out missed it.

As for the jumping up and down mechanic complete with the scoring of the basket......as the fan in the video says, "That's TERRIBLE!!!"

PC. I think that is the leads, even though it is in transition it is coming right at the lead. Sure looks like they had a barge.

I love how the Trail slides to the right and does the block motion when reporting the foul, essentially saying "I saw a better angle than you, the defender slid underneath, which makes this call a block". How arrogant.

Kudos to the Lead, I would be flipping my ish if my P had the audacity to 1) not trust me to make the call, and 2) make the wrong call. Lead handled it well.

I doubt he was doing that to tell his partner he had a better angle or to be arrogant. I think, more than likely, he's just trying to sell a really close call. To me, the only thing that was over the top is the jumping with the signal. The only thing I'll say is if you're going to make a display like that, you damn sure better get the call right (of which I have a charge).

Should the trail have let the lead get first crack at this play? Definitely...is it worth losing your cool over? Hell no...especially if it isn't a regular thing. I do agree that the lead did a good job of holding off on his signal..

This was posted elsewhere along with another video with this same official. The T seems to make a habit of this kind of show from long distance. Wasn't his call from way back there as the L had a great look and the correct call. The L posted that he only gave it up because of that guy's theatrics.

I have a PC al the way. Like others have said, I don't like that block mechanic either!

Did I say partner? I was meaning the crowd and the coaches. The thing is, there was no slide by the defender. The Trail demonstrating a slide was a fabrication. It's something that clearly did not happen, but the Trail used it to sell the call. That's what I think is "arrogant" -- to demonstrate something happening that clearly did not happen.

The only person claiming that is a "really close call" is the Trail in this very video. I have a PC foul, you have a PC foul, others in this thread have an "easy PC" foul. What he is trying to sell, is a wrong call. Which in this case he needs to demonstrate a slide which did not happen.

When I say I would be flipping my ish, I mean internally. I would of course back up my partner, but would hope that I would not have to point out his error, but would have someone more senior do that. In a close game, this call could have an impact on the outcome, which could have been avoided if the Trail trusted his P to make the correct call.

I saw the other play as well and also saw the lead's response to the play...again, I'm going to assume he's not being arrogant in his signals...he's just trying to sell, what in his mind, is a close call (which really wasn't that close from the angle provided). Should he tone it down a bit? Sure...but I'd be more concerned with the timing of his whistle...he should recognize that this is a secondary defender and his cadence on his whistle has to be a lot later if he has a whistle.

I'm not going to lambast the official if that what's he really thought he saw...it happens to everyone. Sometimes you see something that you honestly thought happen, and just didn't plain happen. I've seen D-I and NBA official call trips that didn't happen at all...and sell it to everyone in attendance....it's not different (strictly speaking signalling here). If he really thought he saw the defender slide in late, then I have no problem with trying to show that in his signaling (though he should tone it down a bit)...and I wouldn't call it arrogant.

Second part, I say it's a really close play in the mind of the trail. In his mind, he has a really close block/charge play...saw something subtle...and felt he had to sell it. Of course, it doesn't help, upon replay, that he got the play wrong. And his mechanics were off as well as far as who should have first crack at this play.

Finally, I'm still not going to flip on a call like this...internally or externally. I feel like this call isn't flip your sh** worthy. It would just be something I'd discuss with my partner after the game.

Exactly.

Until you can say you've never reached on a call in your life, there's no reason to get pissed on one single call like this. Although I can't imagine even putting a whistle on this unless it's a cadence whistle used only because the L had a complete brain fart.

We've all reached, we've all missed. We'll all reach and miss again.

But if I'm the L here Im still a little pissed at 1) the lack of trust showed by the T 2) the over the top theatrics on the wrong call and 3) the complete lack of awareness of the L's whistle and preliminary.

And then when you go to youtube you see this same official calling a block from almost 50 ft away with the same BS over the top mechanics. So he now appears twice on this organization's videos of incorrectly calling out of his area and with clownish mechanics.

For his sake and the sake of basketball I sincerely hope he's learned to stop doing this.

I think this is the video VaTerp is talking about.

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That little slide during the report is just horrible to see.

I still probably wouldn't be pissed at this. I would probably bring it up in the locker room, though.

This OP video, and the second video posted on page 2 of this thread are CLASSIC examples of why a play is much easier to officiate when the play coming towards an official rather than when it is moving away from an official.

Other than the fact that the calling official was wrong, I have no problem with his mechanics on these two plays. You have to know which 4-5 plays each game require you to sell it...and then SELL IT!

There's never a need to leave your feet when selling a call.

I swear watching this guy twice he likes calling block just to use that ridiculous looking over-sell block signal.

Yikes.

Looks bad.

Assuming it is the same guy, at least in the second video the dude had the only whistle on the play. I didn't see anything from the Lead that looked like he was going to call something.

And because there's bodies in the way of the camera, you can't really tell if it's actually a play that needs a whistle. Perhaps the lead passed for a reason.

Neither official seemed to hold off on the preliminary or be aware of the other;s call.

Cue the guy who always inserts the California referee jokes.

This is really bad... 2 person game or otherwise.

I agree with all of this, and I would definitely be having a chat in the locker room afterwards, especially on the first video. He needs to have a more patient whistle and trust his partner who obviously has the right call.

There is a difference between selling a call and looking like an absolute fool, and he is the latter. He would get made fun of around here for signals like that.

Like others have said, if you're going to use silly signals/mechanics like that, you had better be damn good and had better get calls right. In the second video he's looking through about three players when the contact happens.

So...to answer the questions presented at the beginning of each clip:

Play #1: For the T...Try not to call outside of your PCA but if you do, avoid giving a preliminary signal on calls outside of your PCA. Following a dribbler to the goal isn't a bad thing but be aware you have a partner (or two) out there. I would hope someone, anyone would address him about his mechanics.

Play #2: For the T...See play #1. For the L...Don't ball watch. The reason he didn't even pull the trigger on some sort of call is he watched the flight of the ball as opposed to the players. If T hadn't put a whistle on the play there probably wouldn't have been one at all.

Could not disagree more.

You sell a call with your voice, presence, and STRONG mechanics. Not jumping around and making over the top gestures.

He looks, particularly in the first clip, like a clown. Period. That doesnt sell the call. It just makes the fact that he got the call wrong that much worse.

It seems in both of these plays that the lead has a better look but I'm under the impression in many cases with two man mechanics that the call should be primarily the trail's because the drive originates from his primary. What am I missing here?

I'm more interested in whose primary the defender came from. Pretty hard to referee the defense when he's in the L's primary and the T is watching the drive.

In my world, we still go by "who is the play coming to" when the play ends up in that official's primary. Maybe it's "old style" thinking, but it works for me.

Hmmm...
 

After watching both videos, I think T is an actor planted by the association to provide some good 'how not to officiate the blarge from trail' footage. I'm with those who say the overacting brings his credibility into question, it's like the kid who lies and gets a little too vehement in defending it. You can tell he's trying to sell something you're not buying. You can be calm and confident and give good mechanics, and have confidence in your voice when you report it, and that's good enough.

With his antics, I'm not going to get into it on the court even if I know he's wrong. But in postgame, I'm having a long talk about areas, proper mechanics, and the importance of eye contact/communication on close calls.

This is exactly how we pregame in 2-person mechanics. Let the Lead have the first crack at these types of plays since the play is coming at him and the defender is in his primary.

I think that makes more sense. Thanks.

Ha Ha! Exactly. from the Pia Zodora school of acting, besides a bad call IMHO he looks silly. I don't think he ever saw or heard his partner

Agreed......laughable

I know here in my corner of Rome, if it is coming towards the Lead, we let the lead take it. If we have a double whistle, the lead has it.

I work with 2 guys that report their blocks like that every time..EVERY time...with the slide to the right. I have always thought it was ugly. Also, tell the guy in the video to count the basket before reporting.

In our pool that would be the T's call initially but we always TRY and I stress try to make eye contact on a double whistle before just blowing up a call. You can sell a call just as effectively and still make eye contact ahead of the signal...and IMO, he oversold the call to the point that I would think he knew he was wrong by how hard he tried to sell it.

Kudos to the L...and I might not confront the guy on the call but he would go on my block list so I didn't have to work with a guy that acts like that.

That first video makes me have less respect for that guy every time I watch it. This is one of the things people are talking about when they accuse officials of drawing attention to themselves. He looks like a clown. Has he never been evaluated, or do the powers-that-be in that area like these mechanics?

Question: Why is a college game being called with a two man crew?

What makes you think it is a college game? No restricted area circle, no shot clock....

It's a high school game in California, they are just wearing the side panels shirts.

That makes the antics look even more foolish. College officials dancing around like jumping jack flash on a high school court.

I saw that too but I figured a guy that acts like that just bought the NCAA shirt because it was the "cool" one to wear.

Just because it is southern California, doesn't mean they are college officials.

The shirt is optional here, I carry one in case that is the only style my partner has.

Exactly. Some people just thing that wearing the next level shirt will make people think they are a better ref. It just might work until you make a call on a pogo stick.

LOL...exactly.

I cringe when I see guys wearing anything other than Fed shirts for h.s. level or lower.

There's a lot to be said for "faking it til you make it", but, that is counterproductive.

You'd hate it here then because the required uniform for varsity is not a "Fed" shirt.

What are "fed" shirts?

We wear gray, or B/W stripes, depending on the decision of the R for the night. I still haven't decided what I'm wearing tonight.

Further, after a season of fighting the battle, the wide panels were allowed as long as everyone matches.

First of all, isn't everyone in Cali an actor/waiter?

To answer the questions at the start of the video:
The crew needs to do a better job ref'ing primaries. In 2-person, the L is responsible for this play. In 3-person the L is responsible. The T had a partially obstructed view of the defender who had started to grow roots he was there for so long.

It really looks like a set up, maybe Joey Crawford was the director? :D

Around here everyone wears the wide panel shirts. I will take the regular shirt every now and then, but 99 percent of the time it's wide panel.

I am not sure you could tell that guy anything.

My favourite part is the knee kick into the air.

My favorite part is when he counts the basket like Indiana Jones swinging his whip.

One Harmless Video, Please ...
 

I don't think I could possibly hate this call and antics any more than I do.

He is out of position (especially in the second video!!) and is WAY over the top with the jumping up and down and signaling.

There are two types of selling — one where you really believe in your product and genuinely think it will help your customer ... and the other is the Shamwow guy.

This referee is the latter.

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I wonder if he shot around at halftime?

That is what I want to know. I see all kinds of colors and styles worn in many situations. You wear what you are allowed to wear in your local area. I think people worry too much about silly things that have no significance. We wore the shirt until they told us to stop wearing it when they first came out. And apparently only one of our administrators objected to them so we were not allowed overall. If they changed tomorrow I would wear that shirt as I have many of them.

Peace

You think this referee beats up hookers?

Same here/

That's funny! And true!

A+++ for your signature, btw :)

He's a thief.

I don't know, but if he does he is probably really emphatic about it!

From JA, right?

From someone's paraphrase of the beer mogul, yes. :D

Maybe it was his birthday and he hadn't received enough attention during the day.