Louisville @ Notre Dame, Rich's Video Request #2
Also, about 5:15 - - how many times did ND travel in that sequence?
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Three. Twice by one player.
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One travel by #0 though it's close depending on when you consider the gather and if the left foot is the pivot foot.
What other travel are people seeing? |
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No way in real time or even on replay I'm calling that travel on #1 though. |
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Nothing on #1. |
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I'm liking what you, Rich, Rut and others are saying, the travel call is the toughest ... hope there's more video throughout the rest of the season to learn from. |
ZERO travels in that sequence.....they didn't call any and I wouldn't call any.
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But the second one? I think that falls into the obvious category, at least for me it does. |
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My crew had a play where a player, who already had a FF1 for an elbow foul, picked up his 5th foul in frustration to missing a lay-up in which there was marginal contact. After our supervisor confirmed our no-call on the missed lay-up his next comment was that the situation would have been avoided if we had called the travel on said player when he made his move to the basket. So college supervisors are looking if we pick up travels. And so is John Adams. The 2nd ND player very obviously travelled and the fact that is was missed isn't reason to say it's not a call that's made at that level. It just may mean that travelling calls will be a POE again next season. |
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If #0 for ND isn't going to be called for a travel going across the lane (When his pivot foot is lifted and returns to the floor not once, but twice), we should just delete the traveling violation out of the NCAA rules book. That is about as obviously as it gets. The others I can get with, it might have been ticky-tack to get those, but #0 clearly traveled. |
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It seems that non travel calls which are business as usual in NBA have seeped into the college game and are as about frequent as a three second call. First one I would pass on but two? C'mon. |
Technically Player #0 does travel when he goes across the lane :
He gathered the ball with one foot on floor(left foot) , jumped off of this foot, but did not land simultneously on 2 feet This play is called a travel only about 1/100 times in a D1 game and rightfully so. Does anyone actually land simultaneously on 2 feet??? Did he gather with one foot on floor or gather with both feet in air (if so he doesn't have to land simultaneously). I think the bottom line for D1 officials as far as the travel call goes is; if you are not 100% sure don't call it. You will not see a call on the jump stop for not landing simultaneously. |
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What does both this play have to do with a jump stop? |
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Big fat Zero |
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1st). Sec44 Art2.b. . . . A player, who catches the ball while moving or dribbling, may stop, and establish a pivot foot as follows: . If one foot is on the floor: It is the pivot when the other foot touches in a step. The player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on both. Neither foot can be a pivot in this case. 2nd) Art. 3. A player who catches the ball while moving or dribbling may stop and establish a pivot foot as follows: On one foot followed by the other, the first foot to touch shall be the pivot foot; When one foot is on the playing court: You are correct the word "jump stop" is not in the rule book but this is the move "0" seems to be attempting rather than your typical "layup" So , as far as breaking the rules he either: 1)didn't land simultaneously or 2) picked up pivot foot and returned to floor before passing or shooting The real point is why didn't they call a violation: obviously these are 3 primetime officials or they wouldn't be working this game. None called a violation. So I try to get into the mind of why these high level officials only call this move a travel 1/100 times. I think it is because they question when the ball was gathered and don't split hairs on landing simultaneously. So, like it or not , they typically let this go. Peyton Sive from Louisville will make this move 5 or 6 times a game and rarely does he land simultaneously. |
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You guys need to scrap your jump stop training and start all over. :) |
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