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bainsey Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:19am
NFHS legalizes video at halftime...
 
...in soccer. :D

Here's the NFHS release from this month....

Quote:
Another change in regard to communication involves electronic devices. While using electronic communication devices to communicate with on-field players is still prohibited, the use of electronic devices on the sideline is allowed.

“If a coach is on the bench and wants to use a tablet-type device to video and then at halftime show the players the rights and wrongs, they are able to do that,” said Mark Koski, NFHS director of sports and events and liaison to the Soccer Rules Committee.

Koski said the previous rule banned all communication devices, including cell phones, from the sideline. If such devices were found, a caution could have been issued.
Could basketball be far behind?

JRutledge Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:27am
Football did not appear to make that change, so I am not so sure basketball will either. Then again the NF likes to have rules similar across the board. Maybe the NF just looks at soccer as different?

Peace

Adam Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:45am
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 878426)
Football did not appear to make that change, so I am not so sure basketball will either. Then again the NF likes to have rules similar across the board. Maybe the NF just looks at soccer as different?

Peace
Don't we all?

maven Mon Feb 11, 2013 01:43pm
What's soccer?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Feb 11, 2013 02:12pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 878426)
Football did not appear to make that change, so I am not so sure basketball will either. Then again the NF likes to have rules similar across the board. Maybe the NF just looks at soccer as different?

Peace

Futbol is very very very different. :p

MTD, Sr.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Feb 11, 2013 02:13pm
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Originally Posted by maven (Post 878469)
What's soccer?


+To infinity and beyond.

MTD, Sr.

bainsey Mon Feb 11, 2013 02:54pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 878426)
Then again the NF likes to have rules similar across the board. Maybe the NF just looks at soccer as different?
Or, the soccer rules committee can't think of a legitimate reason not to use video devices -- which are inexpensive and so readily available these days -- to teach that sport. And yes, I believe the NFHS likes to keep such rules similar among their sports, so what makes basketball so different? Isn't it silly for such things to be illegal? If not, why not?

JRutledge Mon Feb 11, 2013 03:34pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 878491)
Or, the soccer rules committee can't think of a legitimate reason not to use video devices -- which are inexpensive and so readily available these days -- to teach that sport. And yes, I believe the NFHS likes to keep such rules similar among their sports, so what makes basketball so different? Isn't it silly for such things to be illegal? If not, why not?
It is not just what I believe, it is fact that the NF likes to have rules or policies that cross sports when possible. I have heard that from people on the committee and from one of the editors of a couple of rulebooks stated the very same thing. I guess one part of the process to approve a rule is to run it by other sports committees and get some feedback. Now with that being said this could be a different culture in soccer that is not in other sports. So I could see a change, but I do know that in football there was no mention of that change. And football is a sport that uses video a lot and something tells me that might not be allowed in the near future. Basketball maybe but video is used for all kinds of things in the culture. I would think at the NF level, they do not want the most technologically savvy school to have an advantage. I know nothing about soccer coaching and overall strategy like I do in other sports, but I think there would be a significant blowback for that kind of change.

Peace

MD Longhorn Mon Feb 11, 2013 03:39pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 878491)
Or, the soccer rules committee can't think of a legitimate reason not to use video devices -- which are inexpensive and so readily available these days -- to teach that sport. And yes, I believe the NFHS likes to keep such rules similar among their sports, so what makes basketball so different? Isn't it silly for such things to be illegal? If not, why not?
It is silly for them to be illegal...

up until the first time some dillweed decides to use such video to try to prove a referee wrong. Which will happen about 8 seconds after they legalize this.

Maineac Mon Feb 11, 2013 08:05pm
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 878423)
...in soccer.
Lost me here.... :D

26 Year Gap Mon Feb 11, 2013 08:37pm
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 878515)
It is silly for them to be illegal...

up until the first time some dillweed decides to use such video to try to prove a referee wrong. Which will happen about 8 seconds after they legalize this.
Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe they would be prohibited from using them other than during intermission in the locker room. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

bainsey Mon Feb 11, 2013 09:14pm
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 878515)
It is silly for them to be illegal...

up until the first time some dillweed decides to use such video to try to prove a referee wrong. Which will happen about 8 seconds after they legalize this.
Valid point, though I'm sure it'll be made clear the video is for their usage, not ours. The mere mention of "come look at the video" will likely result in dissent, which is a yellow card/technical foul.

Just the same, if a fight breaks out, I doubt we'll have access to someone's video during the game.

bob jenkins Tue Feb 12, 2013 01:26am
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 878578)
Valid point, though I'm sure it'll be made clear the video is for their usage, not ours. The mere mention of "come look at the video" will likely result in dissent, which is a yellow card/technical foul.

Just the same, if a fight breaks out, I doubt we'll have access to someone's video during the game.
Any mention of a video showing that an umpire's call is wrong is an immediate EJ in baseball. So, the soccer reference above doesn't surprise me, and I'd expect something similar if video becomes allowed in basketball.


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