refuses to play with 5

[DRJ1960]

Small Private School BV. Team A is athletic, Team B seems to have mainly offensive linemen in the frontcourt. Game is blowout from the start. VERY physical game by Team B. Second Team B player collects foul #5 on an elbow to the head (my partner calls it a "T"). Coach refuses to substitute and insists on finishing the game with 4 players on the floor in spite of having eligible subs on the bench. (Approx 3 minutes left). 10.5.2 looks possible but seems aimed at a delay rather than "refusal".

What would you have done?

(Yes, the game was a "difficult" one from the tip).

[deecee]

Let's see if this is correct.

T on the coach first for failure to sub.

If he still fails to provide a fifth player then the game shall be forfeit.

[Adam]

Coach, are you telling me all these guys aren't available to play?

[Judtech]

Who determines if a player is eligible or not? Does a minor injury make a player eligible to play if they can just stand out there? If a player is being disciplined by a coach can an official over ride that and make that player eligible?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Who determines if a player is eligible or not? Does a minor injury make a player eligible to play if they can just stand out there? If a player is being disciplined by a coach can an official over ride that and make that player eligible?

No, and no.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Adam

No, and no.

Then play with 4 and let the coach know as soon as/if a player becomes available they need to check in at the table.

[johnny d]

Why was the elbow to the head called a T? Was the ball dead? As far as playing with 4 goes, I would ask the coach if he is refusing to put in a sub, or if the players on his bench are not available to play. If his answer indicates the first then he is getting a T and a forefit if he continues to refuse to put another player in. If he answers the latter, then they play with 4. I dont care what his reason is at the time, injury, discipline, whatever, if he says they are not available, that is good enough for me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Then play with 4 and let the coach know as soon as/if a player becomes available they need to check in at the table.

Agreed, which is why I simply ask, "are you saying no one else is available?" His answer determines how I move forward.

[JetMetFan]

Had any of the kids on the bench played up to that point? If they had, they don't appear injured and you can really tell he's just being a PITA, call a T and then if he still doesn't bring in a player, declare a forfeit.

No sense dealing with someone who wants to have a temper tantrum.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Had any of the kids on the bench played up to that point? If they had, they don't appear injured and you can really tell he's just being a PITA, call a T and then if he still doesn't bring in a player, declare a forfeit.

No sense dealing with someone who wants to have a temper tantrum.

Yet I'd say - no sense inventing rules to satisfy your personal desire to coach this team yourself. This is NOT OUR CALL. Our call is to ask him if any of his players are able to play - if he says no, it's no. (If he says yes, and simply refuses to give you a sub in a timely manner - you can give a T. And sure, if he stupidly continues to insist that he has eligible players but refuses to sub, you can pack up and leave ... but you'd better give him the opportunity to tell you no players are able to play.)

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Who determines if a player is eligible or not?

Definitely not us! The coach does.

Does a minor injury make a player eligible to play if they can just stand out there?

Don't care. Not our decision.

If a player is being disciplined by a coach can an official over ride that and make that player eligible?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.