FSU @ GA Tech...final shot

[JetMetFan]

Thoughts?

[JRutledge]

I have a handcheck long before anything else.

Peace

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have a handcheck long before anything else.

Peace

Agreed. Stayed hand should have been call.

[bob jenkins]

If you don't want to get the HC, then get the PC

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If you don't want to get the HC, then get the PC

That pivot foot moved over 3' before the ball is released. If the travel is missed, then I agree with bob.

[egj13]

I was to distracted by his feet moving all over the place

[ODog]

Originally Posted by egj13

I was to distracted by his feet moving all over the place

Uh oh, nitpicker alert. I guess you never got the memo about which obvious travels to overlook in NCAA M.

Though I will say live I didn't notice. So it wasn't THAT obvious. A travel nonetheless.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by ODog

Uh oh, nitpicker alert. I guess you never got the memo about which obvious travels to overlook in NCAA M.

Though I will say live I didn't notice. So it wasn't THAT obvious. A travel nonetheless.

To caveat my comment...I wouldn't have called the travel because the defender was probably affecting his balance a little bit with the hand check . I wouldn't have called the hand check unless I had been calling it earlier in the game (don't have that knowledge for this game)

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by jrutledge

i have a handcheck long before anything else.

Peace

+1

[constable]

In this order here is what I have

1. Travel
2. Hand check
3. a flop. I think there is some embellishment on the part of the defender.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by constable

In this order here is what I have

1. Travel
2. Hand check
3. a flop. I think there is some embellishment on the part of the defender.

Just curious...Why would you have the travel BEFORE the hand check? Seems like that hand is on the bicep/shoulder of the ball handler, and exerting pressure from the looks of it, well before he steps back to get away from the contact.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rekent

Is this something that honestly would be allowed regularly in a game though at a high school level? In the NBA I would expect it, to a lesser degree NCAA, but I would have thought this would be pretty close to automatic in HS games - it look like he shuffles backwards approximately 4 feet.

For the record there are more hand checking calls in NCAA and NBA (even more in the NBA) than I see in HS games. I also would not really care what my partner has been calling either as I would have a foul regardless if the continuous hand made the defender do something they would not have done.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Just curious...Why would you have the travel BEFORE the hand check? Seems like that hand is on the bicep/shoulder of the ball handler, and exerting pressure from the looks of it, well before he steps back to get away from the contact.

And under NCAA guidelines, it is illegal to have a continuous hand on a ball handler. So the travel should not be called IMO.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have a handcheck long before anything else.

Peace

This. A long, 3-second handcheck that actually pushes the offensive player back a bit.

But if the HC doesn't happen, then hell yes that's a PC.

[srp6977]

First a travel, then a hand check and finally Player Control foul. Multiple choice.

[rekent]

New guy question on a slight tangent that was first brought up by someone else:

In a NHFS (or IAABO) game rather than NCAAM, do you call that travel or overlook it there as well?