Indianaref JRutledge wroteI have a handcheck long before anything else. Peace Agreed. Stayed hand should have been call.
ODog egj13 wroteI was to distracted by his feet moving all over the place Uh oh, nitpicker alert.😉 I guess you never got the memo about which obvious travels to overlook in NCAA M. Though I will say live I didn't notice. So it wasn't THAT obvious. A travel nonetheless.
egj13 ODog wroteUh oh, nitpicker alert.😉 I guess you never got the memo about which obvious travels to overlook in NCAA M. Though I will say live I didn't notice. So it wasn't THAT obvious. A travel nonetheless. To caveat my comment...I wouldn't have called the travel because the defender was probably affecting his balance a little bit with the hand check 😀. I wouldn't have called the hand check unless I had been calling it earlier in the game (don't have that knowledge for this game)
rekent New guy question on a slight tangent that was first brought up by someone else: In a NHFS (or IAABO) game rather than NCAAM, do you call that travel or overlook it there as well?
ODog It would depend on what had been allowed/disallowed to that point by you and your partner(s), imo.
Jesse James Apparently as long as you're within the confines of the visitor's logo, dribbling is optional. Player slides his pivot more than the breadth of the base of the logo before releasing for the dribble. How obvious does it need to be anymore?
rekent ODog wroteIt would depend on what had been allowed/disallowed to that point by you and your partner(s), imo. Is this something that honestly would be allowed regularly in a game though at a high school level? In the NBA I would expect it, to a lesser degree NCAA, but I would have thought this would be pretty close to automatic in HS games - it look like he shuffles backwards approximately 4 feet.
A Pennsylvania Coach bob jenkins wroteIf you don't want to get the HC, then get the PC That pivot foot moved over 3' before the ball is released. If the travel is missed, then I agree with bob.
Multiple Sports Will Clougherty ding this guy and say he was 0 - 3 on this play.... Sorry I gotta be a nit picker as well, but doesn't our bretheren give the "get up" mechanic to the kid on the ground ????
zm1283 This would be a travel in any game I work, but that's just me. If I happened to miss the travel, I would hope I would get the hand check or the PC.
Tio Hands, hands, hands. His hand is on the offensive player and it never leaves. A call would clean up the mess that follows.
constable In this order here is what I have 1. Travel 2. Hand check 3. a flop. I think there is some embellishment on the part of the defender.
rockyroad constable wroteIn this order here is what I have 1. Travel 2. Hand check 3. a flop. I think there is some embellishment on the part of the defender. Just curious...Why would you have the travel BEFORE the hand check? Seems like that hand is on the bicep/shoulder of the ball handler, and exerting pressure from the looks of it, well before he steps back to get away from the contact.