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Old Wed Feb 06, 2013, 12:10pm
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It would depend on what had been allowed/disallowed to that point by you and your partner(s), imo.
Is this something that honestly would be allowed regularly in a game though at a high school level? In the NBA I would expect it, to a lesser degree NCAA, but I would have thought this would be pretty close to automatic in HS games - it look like he shuffles backwards approximately 4 feet.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2013, 12:59pm
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Will Clougherty ding this guy and say he was 0 - 3 on this play....

Sorry I gotta be a nit picker as well, but doesn't our bretheren give the "get up" mechanic to the kid on the ground ????
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2013, 01:44pm
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This would be a travel in any game I work, but that's just me. If I happened to miss the travel, I would hope I would get the hand check or the PC.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2013, 01:46pm
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Hands, hands, hands. His hand is on the offensive player and it never leaves. A call would clean up the mess that follows.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2013, 01:39pm
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2013, 03:55pm
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The question is whether the hand contact caused the travel, therefore resulting in a hand check foul. I could easily go with that.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2013, 04:08pm
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The question is whether the hand contact caused the travel, therefore resulting in a hand check foul. I could easily go with that.
The hand check did not cause the travel, in my opinion, but it doesn't have to to be a foul.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2013, 04:16pm
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The hand check did not cause the travel, in my opinion, but it doesn't have to to be a foul.
It did not CAUSE the travel in the sense that the defender did not push the ball handler backward. But did it CAUSE the travel in the sense that in order to start his move to the basket the ball handler had to step backward to get away from the illegal contact?

I just didn't understand why the previous poster would put the travel call ahead of the hand check call in his prioritized list of calls.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2013, 04:21pm
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I just didn't understand why the previous poster would put the travel call ahead of the hand check call in his prioritized list of calls.
I suppose the argument could be made that there was no hand check foul to call. (minimal contact, no advantage gained, etc.) I don't see how anyone could say there was no travel.
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2013, 05:11pm
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That is an easy obvious travel. Also when the obvious hand check wasn't called, no way he was calling the obvious push off
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Old Fri Feb 08, 2013, 05:16pm
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This would be a travel in any game I work, but that's just me. If I happened to miss the travel, I would hope I would get the hand check or the PC.
So we don't think the travel was CAUSED by the HC? I do.
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