Indiana/Michigan block/charge

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Brad

Even by the book it is super nit-picky. If you call this a travel at the men's D1 level you are going to get weird looks from both of your partners and both coaches.



The "travel" had zero impact on the play. He's putting the ball on the floor and maybe lifted his pivot foot a half second before releasing the ball. Super, super nit-picky. Don't be a detective!



No it's not ... it's not even a drop-step!



I think that's exactly what you are debating.

This "travel" had zero impact on the play. ZERO. It is barely noticeable. If you blow your whistle on this play at this level (really, any level, but especially men's D1), everyone is going to pause and wonder what the hell you called —*because no one will know.

It's super nit-picky ... it's like finding 3-seconds on the post player who has half a foot on the lane line, but the ball is nowhere near him. "By the book"? Yes. Something you should call? No.

In this game if you call this a travel you are going to be the only one calling it ... and you won't be around to call it very long.

Agree 100% with everything here.

The main person I credit with my training once I decided to give up coaching and concentrate on officiating had a lot of Men's D1 and ABA experience.

He always said that officials who call ticky tack "letter of the law" violations do not last very long. He would say focus on these things on call selection:

Call the obvious, protect shooters, referee the defense, reward LGP.

Calling these ticky tack violations arent good for the game and officials who insist on calling them wont be advancing very far.

[VaTerp]

I think the play others may be referencing and the one I thought about when I saw this thread is at the 3:38 mark of the second half.

Victor Oladipo, who I had the pleasure of seeing develop over the course of 3 summers, made a layup with a block call on Tim Hardaway, Jr. I believe.

One of the other officials' body language looked like they were about to go PC, which I thought would have been the right call.

[Brad]

One other thing to add here...

You know the travel that coaches want? The one that you HAVE to get?

The one that allows the offensive player to get past their player who is playing good defense.

Get THAT one.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Brad

One other thing to add here...

You know the travel that coaches want? The one that you HAVE to get?

The one that allows the offensive player to get past their player who is playing good defense.

Get THAT one.

I would think that the coach would also be satisfied with this one since it led to a PC foul instead.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I would think that the coach would also be satisfied with this one since it led to a PC foul instead.

Hell no ... they want the foul!

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Brad

The "travel" had zero impact on the play. He's putting the ball on the floor and maybe lifted his pivot foot a half second before releasing the ball. Super, super nit-picky. Don't be a detective!

The impact is that the player is charged with a foul that happened after the ball is dead if you call the travel. I'm not saying I would have called this travel in real time, because I probably wouldn't. What I am saying is that I don't see how any travel call which is proved right by the video, which this one is, can be considered wrong.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by just another ref

What I am saying is that I don't see how any travel call which is proved right by the video, which this one is, can be considered wrong.

It's not a matter of right vs wrong as much as it is accepted vs not accepted.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Brad

Hell no ... they want the foul!

I was talking about the offensive coach. I'm sure they'd rather give up a turnover rather than the offensive foul.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I was talking about the offensive coach. I'm sure they'd rather give up a turnover rather than the offensive foul.

Well, yeah — that's not the coach I was talking about LOL

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And look! The "hand behind the head" mechanic.

And a beautiful thing it is.