Kentucky/Ole Miss Video Request

[Raymond]

In NCAA an airborne player can fall to the ground and it is not travelling. I believe there is a subtle difference in how the travelling rules are written between NFHS and NCAA that accounts for this. I'll have to look it up later if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

[MOofficial]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In NCAA an airborne player can fall to the ground and it is not travelling. I believe there is a subtle difference in how the travelling rules are written between NFHS and NCAA that accounts for this. I'll have to look it up later if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

4-72-6
It is traveling when a player falls to the playing court while holding the ball without maintaining a pivot foot.

I know in the NBA you are allowed to fall to the court but I'd never heard that for NCAA

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by MOofficial

4-72-6
It is traveling when a player falls to the playing court while holding the ball without maintaining a pivot foot.
...

An airborne player has not yet established a pivot foot, so there is no pivot foot to maintain.

In fact, by rule, I don't see why it is travelling in the NFHS. But when doing HS I call it a travel and when doing college rule set I no-call it.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In NCAA an airborne player can fall to the ground and it is not travelling. I believe there is a subtle difference in how the travelling rules are written between NFHS and NCAA that accounts for this. I'll have to look it up later if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

I believe that only applies to an airborne player who falls directly to the floor without landing on their feet first. If they land awkwardly on their feet (foot) and then go to the ground, it should be a travel.

[APG]

Two plays from this game:

First play and one I was going to post myself:



Illegal screen or pushing foul for going through the screener?

Second play and the one the OP asked for:

[maven]

Play 1: I like the pushing foul on the defender.

Play 2: Wow. Hard to tell about the foul from the angle, but not hard to tell about the travel or OOB. And where the heck was the L going?

[OKREF]

Play 1--illegal screen to me.

Play 2--I would go with a foul on blue, and if no foul, definately travel or out of bounds. Has to be something on this.

[jeschmit]

Play 1 - I would've liked to have seen an illegal screen called here, but I can understand why the T would only be able to see the push. The L had no one between him and this play, and he needs to see and call the illegal screen. The bucket definitely counts with what was called though.

Play 2 - He was definitely pushed, and it caused him to go to the ground. If a foul isn't called here, the travel or OOB should have been. I can see getting away without calling a travel if the official passed on the foul, but the OOB is too obvious...

[APG]

Originally Posted by jeschmit

Play 1 - I would've liked to have seen an illegal screen called here, but I can understand why the T would only be able to see the push. The L had no one between him and this play, and he needs to see and call the illegal screen. The bucket definitely counts with what was called though.

I was also going to bring this up...I also think the lead needs to get this play. Not sure what he was concentrating on.

On play two, I have an undercut by the defender.

[REFANDUMP]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Play 1--illegal screen to me.

Play 2--I might go with a foul on blue, and if no foul, definately travel or out of bounds. Has to be something on this.

Agree on both counts.

[Raymond]

Play #1: Either an illegal screen or it was a pushing foul on B1 PRIOR to A2 starting his habitual shooting motion.

Play #2: Can't tell if there is a push, but there is definitely a travel and an OOB violation.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I believe that only applies to an airborne player who falls directly to the floor without landing on their feet first. If they land awkwardly on their feet (foot) and then go to the ground, it should be a travel.

Agreed. But in HS we call a travel even if the feet don't hit the ground, correct?

[maven]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Agreed. But in HS we call a travel even if the feet don't hit the ground, correct?

NFHS 4-44-5: "A player holding the ball:
a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than
hand or foot."