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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:20pm
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I thought that screen was illegal when it happened and I still do now after seeing the replays.

After seeing the replay on the rebound, non-traval, non-OOB, I think a foul was the right call. Blue-12 came into White-10's legs as he was coming down and caused him to fall. In the end, the right team got that ball, but it sure was an ugly way to get to the right result.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:43pm
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I was also going to bring this up...I also think the lead needs to get this play. Not sure what he was concentrating on..
The other blue player in his area when the play started was cutting across the lane and being defended. He was watching this (and that, in and of itself, is not wrong. That player might have been held and maybe the play was a screen to the other side and a swing pass for a 3-point shot)
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:48pm
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I was also going to bring this up...I also think the lead needs to get this play. Not sure what he was concentrating on.

On play two, I have an undercut by the defender.
I'm with you.

I have an illegal screen on the first play that the Lead needs to get.

Definitely looks like a foul on Blue in the second clip, but if you're going to pass on that, don't compound it by no-calling the travel and OOB.
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Old Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:14pm
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#1 = Illegal screen. It happened in L's PCA so he's the one who needs to get it first, though it's not impossible for the T to get it since no one was near the shooter when he got the ball.

#2 = Foul on Kentucky #12.
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Old Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:51am
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#1 = Illegal screen. It happened in L's PCA so he's the one who needs to get it first, though it's not impossible for the T to get it since no one was near the shooter when he got the ball.

#2 = Foul on Kentucky #12.
Definitely agree on both parts. In addition, there is no way the bucket should've counted on #1.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2013, 12:59am
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1. Illegal screen

2. Blue foul - it's not a full undercut, but it's contact that causes a player to hit the floor and/or commit a violation (OOB). If you're going to have the balls to no-call it, have the bigger balls to call the white player OOB. Doing nothing just looks wrong.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2013, 02:25am
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Definitely agree on both parts. In addition, there is no way the bucket should've counted on #1.
I just watched it again and I am with you about the bucket not counting. The illegal screen was definitely before the shot. Should have gone the other way without points.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2013, 05:09am
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I just watched it again and I am with you about the bucket not counting. The illegal screen was definitely before the shot. Should have gone the other way without points.
Well if you had an illegal screen, then that came clearly before the ball was released...if you had a defensive foul, from the trail's position, since he probably picked up on the contact a little late, I have no problem with counting the basket...it was a bang bang play.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2013, 05:40am
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Well if you had an illegal screen, then that came clearly before the ball was released...if you had a defensive foul, from the trail's position, since he probably picked up on the contact a little late, I have no problem with counting the basket...it was a bang bang play.
I had an illegal screen.
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Illegal screen by the offense, and rebounding foul.
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Old Fri Feb 01, 2013, 08:50am
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Definitely agree on both parts. In addition, there is no way the bucket should've counted on #1.
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I just watched it again and I am with you about the bucket not counting. The illegal screen was definitely before the shot. Should have gone the other way without points.
Glad I'm not the only who thought that. A2 definitely had not brought the ball up to shoot when B1 and A1 collided.


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Play #1: Either an illegal screen or it was a pushing foul on B1 PRIOR to A2 starting his habitual shooting motion.

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