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Adam Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:22pm

Elbow to the Nose
 
First for me. A1 gets the rebound, pivots, swings her elbow right into B1's nose.

Crumple.

Foul.

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BillyMac Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:44pm

When Is Moving Not Moving ???
 
Swing excessive to pivoting, or as part of the pivot? Player control, intentional, or flagrant? I hope that nobody is thinking incidental here. And let's try not to get Albert Einstein involved here. He's busy decomposing. No? Wait? That's Beethoven.

Terrapins Fan Sat Jan 26, 2013 01:05pm

Beethoven is rolling over.

Not flagrant, unless there is a history or a prior warning IMO.

Most likely Intentional, lesson learned by A1.

Welpe Sat Jan 26, 2013 02:51pm

Had the same play last night. Easy intentional.

Raymond Sat Jan 26, 2013 04:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 874541)
First for me. A1 gets the rebound, pivots, swings her elbow right into B1's nose.

Crumple.

Foul.

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That description sounds like a Flagrant Foul. Or did her elbow move in concert with her pivoting?

BktBallRef Sat Jan 26, 2013 04:15pm

INT. Called it last week.

Coach: "Yeah, I saw it. But was it intentional?"

Me: "Coach, the state association's stand is that if the elbow make contact above the shoulder, the least I can call is intentional."

Coach: "Understood."

Adam Sat Jan 26, 2013 04:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 874592)
That description sounds like a Flagrant Foul. Or did her elbow move in concert with her pivoting?

In concert with, maybe slightly faster. Remember, our direction was different here, in that if it was completely in sync with the torsoe, we are able to limit the call to a pc foul.


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