Purdue v. Michigan Backcourt violation

[OKREF]

Absolutely the right call. He gave the tip call, so I am assuming the trail saw it and was not going to call the BC. Looks like the C made the call when he realized trail was not going to. That is why it is a bit late. No problem with the C taking this.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Absolutely the right call. He gave the tip call, so I am assuming the trail saw it and was not going to call the BC. Looks like the C made the call when he realized trail was not going to. That is why it is a bit late. No problem with the C taking this.

As the play turned out, the tip was irrelevant.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

As the play turned out, the tip was irrelevant.

Yep. And, given that it happend in the middle of a rotation, either official could have made the call.

I try not to give the "tip" signal until the ball gets to the BC -- until then it doesn't mean anything and might just confuse.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I try not to give the "tip" signal until the ball gets to the BC -- until then it doesn't mean anything and might just confuse.

That makes sense. Something I will try.

[wyo96]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yep. And, given that it happend in the middle of a rotation, either official could have made the call.

I try not to give the "tip" signal until the ball gets to the BC -- until then it doesn't mean anything and might just confuse.

I generally signal the "tip" as soon as it looks possible the ball will end up in the BC. While I don't want to confuse anybody, my thought is it gives the other official; "C" or "T"; info that prevents the IW or incorrect call.

Can you expand on why you wait until the ball is in BC?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by wyo96

Can you expand on why you wait until the ball is in BC?

You're the C, I'm the T.

You signal tip, I whistle BC violation.

Now we have a miss, no different than a blarge.

This is why I don't use the "tip" signal on BC situations or blocked shots. If I ever use this signal, it's on an OOB play on my line after the ball is dead.

[Forksref]

I don't give the tip signal. In this case it may have caused confusion.

What is interesting here, and it happens to me sometimes, is that the L was flexing during this play and the C didn't see it happen. And rightly so since he was concentrating on the play in his primary. If I miss a flex by the L it is usually because I am the C and locked in on the ball.

[SAJ]

One could say he was the T not the C. The L rotated into the play.