Butler-Gonzaga finish

[just another ref]

I personally use the expression in the process of describing a play.


"He dipped his shoulder and took it straight into the defender's chest."

But the straight into the chest is the part that really matters. When a player does dip the shoulder, it often means he is committed to his path and helps us to anticipate a play.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by APG

Didn't mean that to be directed necessarily at you....I just don't like the term in general and don't use it. It sends up warning flags to me, much like an official that uses something along the lines of getting a player with the body in trying to explain a foul.

(Similar to you, I'm sure) I like to use terms like "displacement" and "verticality" as opposed to "got him with the body".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by APG

Didn't mean that to be directed necessarily at you....I just don't like the term in general and don't use it. It sends up warning flags to me, much like an official that uses something along the lines of getting a player with the body in trying to explain a foul.

It burns me too. There is actually contact in the game of basketball.

I love it when a coach asks, "There was contact on that play right?" Of course silly, but since when did that make a situation a foul?

Peace

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It burns me too. There is actually contact in the game of basketball.

I love it when a coach asks, "There was contact on that play right?" Of course silly, but since when did that make a situation a foul?

Peace

Contact, which may result when opponents are in equally favorable positions to perform normal defensive or offensive movements, should not be considered illegal, even though the contact may be severe.

Rule: 4-27-2

Hey, coach, that's basketball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Contact, which may result when opponents are in equally favorable positions to perform normal defensive or offensive movements, should not be considered illegal, even though the contact may be severe.

Rule: 4-27-2

Hey, coach, that's basketball.

I have probably quoted this rule more than anyone on this site or in an explanation of the rules to a coach.

I am well aware of this rule.

Peace

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have probably quoted this rule more than anyone on this site or in an explanation of the rules to a coach.

I am well aware of this rule.

Peace

That's why I'm your biggest fan!

I threw it out there (again, for the 1000th time) for the benefit of our resident "fan boys" and coaches masquerading as officials on our beloved forum.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by APG

Didn't mean that to be directed necessarily at you....I just don't like the term in general and don't use it. It sends up warning flags to me, much like an official that uses something along the lines of getting a player with the body in trying to explain a foul.

Agreed, but it does make me watch closer and changes the benefit of the doubt.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

I agree there was a push on the inbounds play to creat space to catch.

If you look closely enough, you'll see the offensive player, expecting the pass to go elsewhere, pushing back just the same as he is running away from the defender. He pushed the defender in the direction the ball ultimately went. He just guessed the wrong direction of the throw.

[Swany11]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins;873304]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I noticed that too. I tried to freeze it as best as I could and it looked like the horn went off AND the red light came on with about 0.5 on the clock. Very odd.

Are you looking at the clock above the backboard, or the "clock" on the espn score display at the bottom of the screen? Only the former counts -- the second is just there for information. If you watch a game closely, you can see the "espn clock" reset several times during the game to match what's correct.

Even in arenas where this is syncronized, there's a slight but appreciable delay.

The audio/video is out of sync. Just listen to the announcers...they are reacting to the basket before it goes through the basket.