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upanddown Sun Jan 20, 2013 02:32am

Throw in from endline goes in w/3 seconds.
 
Whats the call? Tell you what the crew did if you're right.

upanddown Sun Jan 20, 2013 02:34am

Thrower makes it
 
So u know ball was untouched when passed thru hoop.

SNIPERBBB Sun Jan 20, 2013 07:58am

Violation.

ART. 7

The thrown ball shall not enter the basket before it touches or is touched by another player.

Sharpshooternes Sun Jan 20, 2013 08:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 873210)
Violation.

ART. 7

The thrown ball shall not enter the basket before it touches or is touched by another player.

Throw in violation. Opposing team throw in at the original spot. And no time should have come off the clock. Now, what did the original crew do?

RookieDude Sun Jan 20, 2013 08:40am

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Originally Posted by upanddown (Post 873199)
Whats the call? Tell you what the crew did if you're right.

Why not tell us even if we are wrong? It could be educational. ;)

Raymond Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:25am

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Originally Posted by upanddown (Post 873200)
So u know ball was untouched when passed thru hoop.

Is this a test or something? Do you really think we don't know this simple rule? :confused:

HawkeyeCubP Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:33am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 873212)
Opposing team throw in at the original spot.

.......?

just another ref Sun Jan 20, 2013 01:08pm

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 873245)
.......?

What's the question? Throw-in violation.......returns to original spot.

HawkeyeCubP Sun Jan 20, 2013 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 873272)
What's the question? Throw-in violation.......returns to original spot.

Wow. I may have just relearned something.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 20, 2013 01:41pm

Maybe you guys are missing that this happened with 3 seconds left. (I assume that's what the OP meant)

I'm not sure what, but it seems important to the OP since he put it in his thread title. ;)

just another ref Sun Jan 20, 2013 01:49pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 873279)
Maybe you guys are missing that this happened with 3 seconds left. (I assume that's what the OP meant)

I'm not sure what, but it seems important to the OP since he put it in his thread title. ;)

Agreed, it must be important, somehow. Reading the title, I assumed the clock was stopped with 3 seconds, and apparently others did also. But obviously, this is not necessarily the case.

Camron Rust Sun Jan 20, 2013 02:18pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 873282)
Agreed, it must be important, somehow. Reading the title, I assumed the clock was stopped with 3 seconds, and apparently others did also. But obviously, this is not necessarily the case.

It doesn't really matter. If it happened as stated with the ball "goes in w/3 seconds", the clock, if running, should stop at that point due to the violation. The resulting timing on the clock should be no different if it had not been a running clock.

Plus, the only way it could have gone in with a running clock would be if it had been a full court throw from the far endline. I suppose that could happen. The bigger discussion in that case would be the fact that it went in at all.

just another ref Sun Jan 20, 2013 02:24pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 873286)
It doesn't really matter.

Right. I should have said the OP seems to think it is important, for some reason.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 20, 2013 02:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 873282)
Agreed, it must be important, somehow. Reading the title, I assumed the clock was stopped with 3 seconds, and apparently others did also. But obviously, this is not necessarily the case.

I should have put my post in blue.

just another ref Sun Jan 20, 2013 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 873289)
I should have put my post in blue.

Now I'm embarrassed.

RookieDude Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:53pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 873279)
Maybe you guys are missing that this happened with 3 seconds left. (I assume that's what the OP meant)

I'm not sure what, but it seems important to the OP since he put it in his thread title. ;)

I'm wondering if the OP wanted the post to say .3...and thought it would be OK to just throw the ball, from OOB, right in the hoop. :confused:

RookieDude Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:01pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 873210)
Violation.

ART. 7

The thrown ball shall not enter the basket before it touches or is touched by another player.

How about 5-1-1

OKREF Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 873374)
How about 5-1-1

That applies to try's not throw ins.

RookieDude Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:07pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 873375)
That applies to try's not throw ins.

5-1-1

No goal is scored if an untouched throw-in goes through the basket.

Adam Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:17am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 873376)
5-1-1

No goal is scored if an untouched throw-in goes through the basket.

That's strictly to ensure no one drops the proverbial ball and scores the basket because a live ball went through a basket.

RookieDude Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:44am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 873382)
That's strictly to ensure no one drops the proverbial ball and scores the basket because a live ball went through a basket.

Gottcha...

I'm talking about scoring regulations, when everyone else is talking about throw-in provisions. :o

Adam Mon Jan 21, 2013 02:12am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 873383)
Gottcha...

I'm talking about scoring regulations, when everyone else is talking about throw-in provisions. :o

Either should be sufficient alone, but they added the redundancy. If only they could apply that clarity to the BC rule.

maven Mon Jan 21, 2013 01:36pm

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 873286)
Plus, the only way it could have gone in with a running clock would be if it had been a full court throw from the far endline. I suppose that could happen. The bigger discussion in that case would be the fact that it went in at all.

In that case I'd think twice about counting the bucket. :D

upanddown Tue Jan 22, 2013 05:46am

sorry so late
 
Yes got violation and throw in right, But with continuos play, clock running time stopped by violation with 3 sec on board. Should additional time be added or not? None was given though coach wanted it. How do these things happen? Score 2 pt difference.
Thanks for your responses.

SNIPERBBB Tue Jan 22, 2013 06:46am

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Originally Posted by upanddown (Post 873528)
Yes got violation and throw in right, But with continuos play, clock running time stopped by violation with 3 sec on board. Should additional time be added or not? None was given though coach wanted it. How do these things happen? Score 2 pt difference.
Thanks for your responses.

No reason for time to be added back to the clock unless it was started improperly or didnt stop properly.

Adam Tue Jan 22, 2013 08:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by upanddown (Post 873528)
Yes got violation and throw in right, But with continuos play, clock running time stopped by violation with 3 sec on board. Should additional time be added or not? None was given though coach wanted it. How do these things happen? Score 2 pt difference.
Thanks for your responses.

Can you describe the situation? How do you have an untouched throw in pass go through the basket with a running clock?

Sharpshooternes Tue Jan 22, 2013 08:55am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 873544)
Can you describe the situation? How do you have an untouched throw in pass go through the basket with a running clock?

Throw in pass after a made basket.

Adam Tue Jan 22, 2013 08:59am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 873546)
Throw in pass after a made basket.

I'd like to see the op confirm that, since it's very unlikely. Might even be on YouTube.


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