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fullor30 Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:20pm
Origin of pulling your whistle out of pocket when you're just about to tip off
 
I don't do it, I use a laynard and put on when I'm in locker room, nor due I tuck whistle in shirt. I'm R last week and our U1 is a fairly new varsity official and so wants to be a big dawg. I noticed he had his laynard hanging out of his pocket and as he is leaving block to get into position pulls out whistle only to have noose be in a knot, we wait about 30 seconds before he has unknots it and puts it on, even home coach is razzing him. My partner and I good naturedly ripped him at half.


So when did this all start? I'm guessing this filtered down from D1 and copied

just another ref Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:25pm
never heard of it

JRutledge Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 872769)
I don't do it, I use a laynard and put on when I'm in locker room, nor due I tuck whistle in shirt. I'm R last week and our U1 is a fairly new varsity official and so wants to be a big dawg. I noticed he had his laynard hanging out of his pocket and as he is leaving block to get into position pulls out whistle only to have noose be in a knot, we wait about 30 seconds before he has unknots it and puts it on, even home coach is razzing him. My partner and I good naturedly ripped him at half.


So when did this all start? I'm guessing this filtered down from D1 and copied


edit for thread title * you're

I believe you can edit your own title. That being said I do take the whistle out late before I jump the ball, but usually after we run across the court. But I never did this because someone at the college level did this. Actually I basically did this to not have the whistle dangling well before the contest.

Peace

APG Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:14am
Edited the title for you...

As I don't like to use a lanyard and my assignor doesn't care if I use one, my whistle is in my pocket until I'm getting into whether position I'll be for the jump ball.

Freddy Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:42am
How Rome is Here
 
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 872769)
...our U1 is a fairly new varsity official and so wants to be a big dawg. I noticed he had his laynard hanging out of his pocket...
I did this for a coupla games early this season and after an observer told me it looked stupid I put it back inside my shirt and don't do that anymore.

Maybe it will catch on sometime, but right now only maverick big-time wannabe's from a rather distant large city go without a lanyard. If more guys did it it might look normal, I suppose. Not sure if it will catch on or not. Doesn't look like it.

I did realize tonight right after taking off my coat that I forgot my whistle. Partner had a nice new Fox 40 with lanyard in his pocket. Handy.

fullor30 Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:42am
Did you always leave it in pocket until tip off?

CMHCoachNRef Fri Jan 18, 2013 01:04am
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 872769)
I don't do it, I use a laynard and put on when I'm in locker room, nor due I tuck whistle in shirt. I'm R last week and our U1 is a fairly new varsity official and so wants to be a big dawg. I noticed he had his laynard hanging out of his pocket and as he is leaving block to get into position pulls out whistle only to have noose be in a knot, we wait about 30 seconds before he has unknots it and puts it on, even home coach is razzing him. My partner and I good naturedly ripped him at half.


So when did this all start? I'm guessing this filtered down from D1 and copied
Virtually all of the referees with whom I work keep their whistles in their pockets until just prior to tip-off. Further, whenever there is an extended break -- time outs, between quarters, etc. -- they (we) either remove our whistles or tuck them in our shirts. I personally started doing this when a veteran official suggested that someone could come out of the stands and grab the whistle and create a very uncomfortable situation for the referee. Ever since, I have kept the whistle out of plain sight until ready for play....

Eastshire Fri Jan 18, 2013 07:48am
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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 872785)
Virtually all of the referees with whom I work keep their whistles in their pockets until just prior to tip-off. Further, whenever there is an extended break -- time outs, between quarters, etc. -- they (we) either remove our whistles or tuck them in our shirts. I personally started doing this when a veteran official suggested that someone could come out of the stands and grab the whistle and create a very uncomfortable situation for the referee. Ever since, I have kept the whistle out of plain sight until ready for play....
Tucking it away during time outs and intermissions seems a little unnecessary, but before and after the game and during halftime, mine goes under the shirt. It's too easy for someone to grab to leave hanging out there. And if you're wearing a neck lanyard, it could be life-threatening in a fight if it's grabbed.

stiffler3492 Fri Jan 18, 2013 07:56am
I'd say yall are being too paranoid about people grabbing the whistle in a fight, but we've seen way too often that you can't put anything past anyone.

Eastshire Fri Jan 18, 2013 07:59am
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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 872818)
I'd say yall are being too paranoid about people grabbing the whistle in a fight, but we've seen way too often that you can't put anything past anyone.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me :D

Seriously though, if someone is going to throw a haymaker at you, they usually will grab at the center of your shirt to try to hold you in place for the punch. Why give them one more thing to grab at?

Tio Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:03am
Having a lanyard hanging out of your pocket looks sloppy and attracts undue attention to yourself. He should have been humiliated that he held up the start of the game and if not, I would have made sure to let him have it at halftime.

Rich Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:05am
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Originally Posted by Tio (Post 872878)
Having a lanyard hanging out of your pocket looks sloppy and attracts undue attention to yourself. He should have been humiliated that he held up the start of the game and if not, I would have made sure to let him have it at halftime.
Lighten up, Francis. If I had done it, I'd probably be laughing with the rest of my crew.

My goodness, this isn't brain surgery we're performing out there. Seems as though some people can't ever have a little FUN on the floor.

(That said, I used to be a pocket person and I just put my noose on under my jacket now.)

Tio Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 872881)
Lighten up, Francis. If I had done it, I'd probably be laughing with the rest of my crew.

My goodness, this isn't brain surgery we're performing out there. Seems as though some people can't ever have a little FUN on the floor.

(That said, I used to be a pocket person and I just put my noose on under my jacket now.)
No, it is not brain surgery, but it is unprofessional to have a lanyard hanging out of your pocket and then have to untie a knot and hold up the game. This is not the tone we want to set starting a game.

JRutledge Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:17am
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Originally Posted by Tio (Post 872919)
No, it is not brain surgery, but it is unprofessional to have a lanyard hanging out of your pocket and then have to untie a knot and hold up the game. This is not the tone we want to set starting a game.
Well I guess I am "unprofessional" as I have my lanyard hanging out of my pocket before the game. I do that so I make sure I have it with me and hardly anyone notices considering it is black and my pants are black. But hey if that is a problem then someone would have been saying something by now. Now I put my lanyard on well before the jump ball in time. I do what I do kind of as a superstitious thing and to get my mind right with a routine.

Peace

Raymond Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:43am
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Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 872769)
... I noticed he had his laynard hanging out of his pocket...
I do this. I don't like it around my neck unless it needs to be, which is when the game starts. I tuck it in my shirt during all time-outs b/c I don't want it bouncing around. As soon as the horn for halftime goes off I take it off my neck and put it in the pocket of the direction we are going in the 2nd half.

Would only change this is if Tio was a supervisor signing my checks.


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