Players on the floor after 2Q, different in 3Q
The varsity officials after my game had to deal with the home head coach who complained that the players at the end of the second quarter were different than the players who started the third quarter. According to HC, they did not check in before the 15 second warning buzzer starting the third quarter. He confirmed with the official scorer that no one had checked prior to that buzzer.
My question, How can we enforce 3-3-1a if no one keeps track of the players leaving after the second quarter? Are we expected to keep track? |
To be perfectly honest with you, I do not care. As long as no one complains or makes a big deal out of who is in the game, I honestly do not monitor how teams communicate or not communicate to the scorer. This is such a non-issue and if someone made an issue out of this it would be a first in my career.
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Coach is right, by rule. I've never bothered with it, though, and like Jeff, I've never even heard of a coach making an issue out of it.
Sounds like some coach just learned himself a new rule. If it's brought to my attention, I'll enforce it by rule. |
So how did our colleagues handle it?
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Prove It
Would anyone think to say the onus is on the coach to provide information that confirms his assertion? Since was the home coach complaining, is this something they set up?
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It sounds like this will happen more frequently at this coach's games. Had this very situation happen in a college game about 5 years ago. Yes it is cheap, yes coach just happened to learn a rule he could try to exploit. We proceeded according to rule. |
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And here's the case play...
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(whistle...ball in play) |
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Scorebook verified no one checked in. Did they verify which players were on the court at the end of the half?
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There is one scorer in my area who writes in the book the numbers of every player on the court when each quarter ends. If different players start a quarter without reporting, she has the timer sound the horn and has no trouble telling the coach (visiting coach, of course) exactly who was in the game when the quarter ended.
The evidence was clear...and left me no choice but to enforce the rule. At the next quarter, the players made a special "show" of checking in. |
I think it was a POE a couple of years ago, and all scorers should (but not all do, I know) know who is in the game at any given time. (And, if it's too much for the scorer than someone else at the table can track it.)
Heck, many gyms have the current players on the scoreboard. |
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Is it just me.... or is this a rather stupid rule.
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For me, this is all on the scorer. If the scorer can't tell me who finished the last quarter, I'm not trying to remember. And that will be the end of my detective work.
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