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NCHSAA Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:28pm

DQ vs. Ejection
 
There is continual confusion in our association regarding disqualification versus ejection related to flagrant personal, flagrant technicals, and/or 2 technicals.

Here in NC we have a state list that covers actions that result in an ejection. Yet still we have had situations where players/coaches are DQ'd instead of ejected and vice versa.

How is it in your areas? Or is it just us North Carolinians??

Adam Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:54pm

High school, the only people who are ever ejected are coaches, but only after they are DQd.

BillyMac Fri Jan 11, 2013 07:55am

I've Heard About Priests Being Ejected ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871501)
High school, the only people who are ever ejected are coaches, but only after they are DQd.

... and any other adult bench personnel (trainers, statisticians, team chaplains, doctors, etc.)

10-4 Penalty: Ejected adult bench personnel shall leave the vicinity (out of sight and sound) of the playing area
immediately and are prohibited from any further contact (direct or indirect) with the team
during the remainder of the game. Failure to comply with the rules of ejection may result
in the game being forfeited.

JRutledge Fri Jan 11, 2013 08:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCHSAA (Post 871492)
How is it in your areas? Or is it just us North Carolinians??

No such problem here. It sounds like there is a semantics discussion going on in your area that you might need to elaborate on why this would be an issue in the first place?

Peace

Raymond Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871574)
No such problem here. It sounds like there is a semantics discussion going on in your area that you might need to elaborate on why this would be an issue in the first place?

Peace

Most likely b/c an ejection would invoke a suspension while a DQ requires no further action.

JRutledge Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 871598)
Most likely b/c an ejection would invoke a suspension while a DQ requires no further action.

I kind of figured that much, but I guess that should be easy. We file what is called a Special Report for any contest that results in an ejection. It is clear to me that a player that has 5 fouls is not ejected from the game. Otherwise if a player or coach gets Ts or is called for a flagrant act, then it is obvious what we have to do as it results in paperwork (and a suspension likely as well).

Peace

bob jenkins Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871619)
I kind of figured that much, but I guess that should be easy. We file what is called a Special Report for any contest that results in an ejection. It is clear to me that a player that has 5 fouls is not ejected from the game. Otherwise if a player or coach gets Ts or is called for a flagrant act, then it is obvious what we have to do as it results in paperwork (and a suspension likely as well).

Peace

So, what happens if a kid has 4 fouls, then mouths off at the ref?

(I know, and I assume you know, but it is the type of question that came up when the policy was put into place here.)

When in doubt, file the paperwork and let the state handle it.

JRutledge Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 871625)
So, what happens if a kid has 4 fouls, then mouths off at the ref?

(I know, and I assume you know, but it is the type of question that came up when the policy was put into place here.)

When in doubt, file the paperwork and let the state handle it.

Unless that is a Flagrant foul, then you file no report. The player has 5 fouls. Honestly do not see why that would be hard to understand for anyone that knows the rules?

BTW, that happened to me last year and I did not file a report (for that situation).

Peace


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