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JugglingReferee Thu Jan 10, 2013 09:19pm

Violation?
 
For the "newbies" only please.

A1 ends his dribble in the front court near the division line. He is trapped by two Team B players. He decides to pass to A2 who is also in the front court near the division line, about 15 feet away. The two B players are in A1's way, so A1 puts some "English" on the bounce pass. The ball bounces in the back court, and then (a) continues on to A2 who then catches it, or (b) A2 lets it bounce in the front court first, and then catches the pass.

In both cases, the pass is successful and A2 continues on with the 4-on-3.

Any calls to be made?

Upward ref Thu Jan 10, 2013 09:37pm

If I did call it ,it might not have been a fast whistle !
Here goes;
team control in front court
Last to touch or touched by before it went into the backcourt
First to touch in front court
Violation .
Sometimes it's fun being a newbie!

Mark Padgett Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:12pm

I was going to answer the question until I realized it was only for newbies, not nudebies. :rolleyes:

JugglingReferee Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 871462)
If I did call it ,it might not have been a fast whistle !
Here goes;
team control in front court
Last to touch or touched by before it went into the backcourt
First to touch in front court
Violation .
Sometimes it's fun being a newbie!

I thought someone might say "front court" here.

That's my point... the ball is in the front court, not the back court.

Camron Rust Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:31am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 871507)
I thought someone might say "front court" here.

That's my point... the ball is in the front court, not the back court.

So? What is your point?

JugglingReferee Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 871529)
So? What is your point?

You're smarter than that.

Stat-Man Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 871453)
For the "newbies" only please.

A1 ends his dribble in the front court near the division line. He is trapped by two Team B players. He decides to pass to A2 who is also in the front court near the division line, about 15 feet away. The two B players are in A1's way, so A1 puts some "English" on the bounce pass. The ball bounces in the back court, and then (a) continues on to A2 who then catches it, or (b) A2 lets it bounce in the front court first, and then catches the pass.

In both cases, the pass is successful and A2 continues on with the 4-on-3.

Any calls to be made?

Well, I am a new official. :D

I'm going to say violation in (a) and legal in (b).

Adam Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 871530)
You're smarter than that.

Doesn't matter.

just another ref Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 871532)
I'm going to say violation in (a) and legal in (b).

half right

Camron Rust Fri Jan 11, 2013 02:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 871530)
You're smarter than that.

His statement was correct regarding the player being the first to touch in the frontcourt. And given the scenario, that is actually sufficent to make the right ruling even if it isn't for the general case.

KJUmp Fri Jan 11, 2013 05:55am

No violation in A or B.

letemplay Fri Jan 11, 2013 09:14am

The heck with newbies...this is a good one for some of us old pharts:confused:

Thumper68 Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Upward ref (Post 871462)
If I did call it ,it might not have been a fast whistle !
Here goes;
team control in front court
Last to touch or touched by before it went into the backcourt
First to touch in front court
Violation .
Sometimes it's fun being a newbie!

This newbie is going to agree with Upward ref. Baccourt violation in both A and B.

BillyMac Fri Jan 11, 2013 03:17pm

That's My Answer and I'm Sticking To It ...
 
Trail should start his ten second backcourt count as soon as the ball touches the backcourt.

Upward ref Fri Jan 11, 2013 04:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 871576)
The heck with newbies...this is a good one for some of us old pharts:confused:

Haha , I'm both anyway! :p


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