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icallfouls Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:10pm

Dunk & Block/Charge
 
Watching ESPN last night and the top 10 plays involved a dunk and block/charge play that was virtually identical to a thread that recently closed involving a high school player that dunked on/over/through a secondary defender.

I am trying to research the clip, but if anyone else has access to ESPN's Top 10 for 1/9 (Minnesota v Illinois) and know the play I am referring to. Maybe someone could post both videos again for comparison? FOUND IT - 1st half with 16:33 left.

The play was Illinois player drove the middle of the lane and the secondary defender had established LGP outside the RA. It was an unbelievable dunk, and to the L's credit he called a charge on the play and waived off the basket. Ball is still in hand at the time of contact.

Maybe not everyone in Illinois is on the same page :)

Tio Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:30pm

Not smart enough to embed it, but here is a link. At first I thought he counted the basket based on his mechanic.

Brandon Paul dunks on Trevor Mbakwe 1-9-2013 - YouTube

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Jesse James Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:36pm

They counted the bucket....called contact after the release.

#olderthanilook Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:38pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrl25RdVv9Y[/youtube]

edit: nnnnnnope

Tio Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:41pm

That is what I thought... the score at the bottom must've been slow to update.

The scored basket after the release occurs RARELY. The only time you really can have it is on a running teardrop type shot. The contact occurs before the release.

Jesse James Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:47pm

Same game--thoughts on double foul with 14:33 left in second half?

icallfouls Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse James (Post 871373)
They counted the bucket....called contact after the release.

Good catch, I should have looked closer :eek:

Tio Thu Jan 10, 2013 03:57pm

Doubt we will find a link to that play without clipping it from the film. Times like this that I hate Comcast for not providing access to Big 10 2 go.

I understand why the play was called. 2 opposing post players are standing straight with hands up over their heads.... kind of tangled and not releasing. Terry Wymer is a REALLY good official and I have no issue with the call for game management's sake.

John Groce didn't like it, but he has been nuts since Illinois stopped playing over their heads during conference play.

Raymond Thu Jan 10, 2013 04:07pm

I'm not APG but I did sleep at a Baymont Suites and Inns the another night:

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Raymond Thu Jan 10, 2013 04:12pm

We sure that isn't JRut working this game?

And where is drofficial so he can tell us what is wrong with the state of college officiating? :cool:

Adam Thu Jan 10, 2013 04:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 871390)

And where is drofficial so he can tell us what is wrong with the state of college officiating? :cool:

Did you check on top of the high horse?

Scuba_ref Thu Jan 10, 2013 04:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871391)
Did you check on top of the high horse?

Ouch! :eek:

VaTerp Thu Jan 10, 2013 04:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 871390)
We sure that isn't JRut working this game?

And where is drofficial so he can tell us what is wrong with the state of college officiating? :cool:

Lol

Definitely questionable if the contact is after the release of the ball but I actually like the outcome in this instance.

Score the bucket and reward the defender with a drawn PC.

icallfouls Thu Jan 10, 2013 04:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 871396)
Lol

Definitely questionable if the contact is after the release of the ball but I actually like the outcome in this instance.

Score the bucket and reward the defender with a drawn PC.

i think that counting the basket and calling the PC should be utilized in HS as well

Rich Thu Jan 10, 2013 04:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by icallfouls (Post 871399)
i think that counting the basket and calling the PC should be utilized in HS as well

Funny, I feel just the opposite. Wipe it off, period.


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