Book set up

SCalScoreKeeper

Hey everyone had this come up during varsity girls pre-game:

R is checking the book and counts 1 more player in the book than on the floor.I copy the entire roster in and then get the DNP's from each coach and she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?

Adam

I'd rather see more. I couldn't care less about whether someone doesn't play, but if they might, I'd rather they were in.

Had a T tonight for that. Just a pain.

Raymond

SCalScoreKeeper wrote
... she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?

Players are not required to warm up. Does it throw off her count if someone is in the locker room getting their ankle re-wrapped or fixing a wardrobe malfunction?

JRutledge

More is always good. Less could be a problem.

Peace

constable

SCalScoreKeeper wrote
Hey everyone had this come up during varsity girls pre-game:

R is checking the book and counts 1 more player in the book than on the floor.I copy the entire roster in and then get the DNP's from each coach and she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?

I fail to see the issue with having more players on the book then on the floor.

BillyMac

JRutledge wrote
More is always good. Less could be a problem.

Agree, more or less.

Tio

Who cares? Players can be in the book and not play. The only reason why the number of players matters is to avoid a team missing a player and avoiding a technical foul by catching it before the 10-minute mark to tip.

SCalScoreKeeper wrote
Hey everyone had this come up during varsity girls pre-game:

R is checking the book and counts 1 more player in the book than on the floor.I copy the entire roster in and then get the DNP's from each coach and she said that threw her count off.would you rather see entire rosters with DNP in the scoring column of those who were not active or just the active players?

SCalScoreKeeper

You mentioned the 10 minute mark for having rosters in-I already have the book prepped well before arriving at school.I keep rosters on hand for myself and our announcer and ask each visiting coach to verify the information and make any additions or subtractions and get the starters at half of the jv boys game.The visiting varsity girls coach didn't have her starters when I asked so she just verified her roster and I got the starters from her scorer at the start of the clock.Usually I am able to get both sets of starters in before warm-up even begins.

bainsey

Player is in the book, but not on the floor = no problem.

Player on the floor, but not in the book = PROBLEM.

tomegun

SCalScoreKeeper wrote
You mentioned the 10 minute mark for having rosters in-I already have the book prepped well before arriving at school.I keep rosters on hand for myself and our announcer and ask each visiting coach to verify the information and make any additions or subtractions and get the starters at half of the jv boys game.The visiting varsity girls coach didn't have her starters when I asked so she just verified her roster and I got the starters from her scorer at the start of the clock.Usually I am able to get both sets of starters in before warm-up even begins.

So you keep track of teams' rosters and only ask for updates? Overkill IMO, but you are the one keeping the book.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is the first time I have ever heard of putting DNP by a player for a high school game.

JRutledge

tomegun wrote
So you keep track of teams' rosters and only ask for updates? Overkill IMO, but you are the one keeping the book.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is the first time I have ever heard of putting DNP by a player for a high school game.

I have had scorers and coaches cross off players that are not in uniform. Never understand why they do that or care, but they do not know the rules so what else is new?

Peace

rockyroad

JRutledge wrote
I have had scorers and coaches cross off players that are not in uniform. Never understand why they do that or care, but they do not know the rules so what else is new?

Peace

It's not a rule.

It's a way for the Coaches to keep track of how many games a players has played in...used to calculate quarters played for lettering, calculate averages like points per game, etc...

JRutledge

rockyroad wrote
It's not a rule.

It's a way for the Coaches to keep track of how many games a players has played in...used to calculate quarters played for lettering, calculate averages like points per game, etc...

It is a rule to keep off a player that is not going to play in a game that particular night?

That was the only thing I was referencing. We are not going to give a T if they have more players in the book or the wrong number if that player will never see the court.

Peace

rockyroad

JRutledge wrote
It is a rule to keep off a player that is not going to play in a game that particular night?

That was the only thing I was referencing. We are not going to give a T if they have more players in the book or the wrong number if that player will never see the court.

Peace

Nope.

They can have as many in the book as they want, whether they will play that night or not. Crossing off the name or writing DNP next to the name is just a statistics thing.

BillyMac

Back when I was coaching middle school basketball, I would list all fourteen players on the team in the scorebook, in numerical order, for every single game, even if they were on the bench with a crutches, and a cast, or home, sick with the flu. What's the harm?

SCalScoreKeeper

thanks for the responses everyone!

JRutledge

rockyroad wrote
Nope.

They can have as many in the book as they want, whether they will play that night or not. Crossing off the name or writing DNP next to the name is just a statistics thing.

Nope what? I do not care about stats and was not commenting on stats. I would think it would be pretty easy to know who did not play if they were in the book or not. I was only commenting on it is not necessary to cross anyone off under the rules, that was the only point.

I had a coach kick a kid off the team from one game to another in a Christmas Tournament. Do you think I care if the kid's name was crossed off in the book? Nope.

Peace

rockyroad

JRutledge wrote
Nope what? I do not care about stats and was not commenting on stats. I would think it would be pretty easy to know who did not play if they were in the book or not. I was only commenting on it is not necessary to cross anyone off under the rules, that was the only point.

I had a coach kick a kid off the team from one game to another in a Christmas Tournament. Do you think I care if the kid's name was crossed off in the book? Nope.

Peace

Nobody cares whether you care or not...you made a comment about coaches crossing players off not knowing the rules. I corrected you by pointing out that there is no rule coverage pertaining to that practice.

JRutledge

rockyroad wrote
Nobody cares whether you care or not...you made a comment about coaches crossing players off not knowing the rules. I corrected you by pointing out that there is no rule coverage pertaining to that practice.

OK man. LOL!!!

You did not correct me on anything. Just stated it was unnecessary as their is no penalty or anything wrong with keeping a person in the book. If that bothers you to state that, OK. 🙄

Peace