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Triad zebra Wed Jan 09, 2013 09:29am

Compression Shorts
 
3.5.7. Compression shorts/tights shall be a single solid color similar to the predominant color of the pants/skirt; the length shall be above the knee.
Undergarments shall not extend below the pants/skirt.
What is the difference between compression shorts/tights and undergarments?
Can tights extend below the pants if they stop short of the knee?

jdmara Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triad zebra (Post 871105)
3.5.7. Compression shorts/tights shall be a single solid color similar to the predominant color of the pants/skirt; the length shall be above the knee.
Undergarments shall not extend below the pants/skirt.
What is the difference between compression shorts/tights and undergarments?
Can tights extend below the pants if they stop short of the knee?

Compression shorts/tights and undergarments are the same thing. They cannot extend below the shorts.

-Josh

PG_Ref Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triad zebra (Post 871105)
3.5.7. Compression shorts/tights shall be a single solid color similar to the predominant color of the pants/skirt; the length shall be above the knee.
Undergarments shall not extend below the pants/skirt.
What is the difference between compression shorts/tights and undergarments?
Can tights extend below the pants if they stop short of the knee?

In NFHS, tights are not allowed.

Triad zebra Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:18am

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Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 871125)
Compression shorts/tights and undergarments are the same thing. They cannot extend below the shorts.

-Josh

What is the purpose of having a logo requirement on an item that essentially won't be seen?

bob jenkins Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:19am

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Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 871127)
In NFHS, tights are not allowed.

If the player wears long pants, who's going to check? By rule, I guess they still need to be above the knee ....

tjones1 Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:36am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 871133)
If the player wears long pants, who's going to check? By rule, I guess they still need to be above the knee ....

A plumber?

Scuba_ref Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:38am

Why would Freddy check this?

PG_Ref Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:44am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 871133)
If the player wears long pants, who's going to check? By rule, I guess they still need to be above the knee ....

I guess that's true. Just can't recall the last time I saw someone wear long pants in an organized bball game. Out of sight, out of mind ...

Loudwhistle2 Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:48am

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Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 871137)
I guess that's true. Just can't recall the last time I saw someone wear long pants in an organized bball game. Out of sight, out of mind ...

Kind of like belly and nipple piercings!

grunewar Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:50am

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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 871135)
A plumber?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_ref (Post 871136)
Why would Freddy check this?

That made me chuckle! :D

grunewar Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 871137)
I guess that's true. Just can't recall the last time I saw someone wear long pants in an organized bball game. Out of sight, out of mind ...

I had a religious school once that had skirts, pants, head covers, etc.

Their BB wasn't that good, but they paid well. No flow or continuity to most of their games.

One game I blew the whistle so often it literally gave me a headache after the first qtr. :(

BillyMac Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:58am

Semper Ubi Sub Ubi ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 871137)
Just can't recall the last time I saw someone wear long pants in an organized ball game.

Religious reasons.

And, if long pants are worn instead of shorts, they are legal. If long pants are worn under the shorts, they are undergarments, and are illegal if they go below the shorts. If they're very long socks, they can legally go all the way up above the shorts. Also, there are no color limitations on long pants (if worn instead of shorts), undergarments below the waist (and above the shorts), and socks. Go figure?

BillyMac Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:12am

Compression Shorts ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmara (Post 871125)
Compression shorts/tights and undergarments are the same thing. They cannot extend below the shorts.

You sure? Compression shorts can extend below the shorts, but may not extend below the knee. There is also a color restriction on compression shorts that does not apply to undergarments worn below the waist and above the shorts.

tjones1 Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:42am

Semi-related
 
Anyone seeing players wearing long sleeve compession shirts?

It's popped up one or two times for me. Just wondering if this is a trending item that they are trying to get away with?

Bad Zebra Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:51am

Ah, Fashion Police to the rescue.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 871153)
You sure? Compression shorts can extend below the shorts, but may not extend below the knee. There is also a color restriction on compression shorts that does not apply to undergarments worn below the waist.

Which brings up a good point...how the he!! are we supposed to differentiate between compression shorts and undergarments being worn below the waist? Anybody working girls games want to take on that discussion? What, exactly, constitutes an undergarment?

PG_Ref Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 871161)
Anyone seeing players wearing long sleeve compession shirts?

It's popped up one or two times for me. Just wondering if this is a trending item that they are trying to get away with?

I would think that compression undershirts are no different than regular undershirts ... long sleeves are allowed (at least in NFHS). Not exactly sure what they would be getting away with.

grunewar Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 871161)
Anyone seeing players wearing long sleeve compession shirts?

I've seen it once this yr at the V level.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 871161)
Just wondering if this is a trending item that they are trying to get away with?

Not sure what they're "getting away with" as it's legal. But, if you mean, trying to call attention to themselves by being different within the rules - then yeah, I agree.

Adam Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:22pm

I'm seeing it more often. Perfectly legal as long as it meets the undershirt requirements.

Raymond Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:29pm

Did a college game this season where a player had a long sleeve undershirt for medical reasons and a letter signed by Art Hyland authorizing it.

Once worked a homeschooled team that wore long pants. They put up over 100 points.

tjones1 Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 871170)
I've seen it once this yr at the V level.

Not sure what they're "getting away with" as it's legal. But, if you mean, trying to call attention to themselves by being different within the rules - then yeah, I agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871173)
I'm seeing it more often. Perfectly legal as long as it meets the undershirt requirements.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 871175)
Did a college game this season where a player had a long sleeve undershirt for medical reasons and a letter signed by Art Hyland authorizing it.

Once worked a homeschooled team that wore long pants. They put up over 100 points.

Sorry... in regards to NCAA.

BillyMac Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:45pm

Well, He Said Something Like This ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 871175)
Once worked a homeschooled team that wore long pants. They put up over 100 points.

"It's the pants." (Mars Blackmon)

JRutledge Wed Jan 09, 2013 01:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 871161)
Anyone seeing players wearing long sleeve compession shirts?

It's popped up one or two times for me. Just wondering if this is a trending item that they are trying to get away with?

I see this almost every game this season. I could not tell you when one player did not have this configuration of their uniform.

Peace

BillyMac Wed Jan 09, 2013 01:41pm

Long Johns ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871194)
I see this almost every game this season. I could not tell you when one player did not have this configuration of their uniform.

I also see at least one long sleeved undershirt, legal color, every game, usually a boys game, but it's just a regular long sleeved undershirt, not a compression undershirt.

Adam Wed Jan 09, 2013 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 871179)
Sorry... in regards to NCAA.

I was wondering if you were talking about college (where it is illegal, as I understand it.)

JRutledge Wed Jan 09, 2013 02:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 871179)
Sorry... in regards to NCAA.

I have not seen these kinds of issues at the NCAA level. Seems like college coaches have more control over this stuff.

Peace

Adam Wed Jan 09, 2013 02:23pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871208)
I have not seen these kinds of issues at the NCAA level. Seems like college coaches have more control over this stuff.

Peace

They should, it's actually illegal there as opposed to high school.

JRutledge Wed Jan 09, 2013 03:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 871210)
They should, it's actually illegal there as opposed to high school.

What I mean is that you do not even see items that are illegal or have to address the issues. In HS we see all kinds of things we have to bring to the attention of a coach or hear, "They let us wear it before...." crap. It is one thing to have an item that is not very well known as illegal, but it has always been illegal to wear a lot of these things in HS and they never say anything to their players at the HS level to prevent these from being an issue.

Peace

Adam Wed Jan 09, 2013 03:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 871225)
What I mean is that you do not even see items that are illegal or have to address the issues. In HS we see all kinds of things we have to bring to the attention of a coach or hear, "They let us wear it before...." crap. It is one thing to have an item that is not very well known as illegal, but it has always been illegal to wear a lot of these things in HS and they never say anything to their players at the HS level to prevent these from being an issue.

Peace

Agreed.


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