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loners4me Tue Jan 08, 2013 09:15pm

One man show
 
Fresh girls- partner didnt show and I went at it solo. It required me to work significantly harder to see what I could.

Anyway, at halftime AD came in to say good job. I asked him for my missing partners game check for my troubles. He hem-hawed a bit and I asked a little more firm the second time and he agreed.

Was I in the wrong?

On a side note I told the coaches I would call what I saw and if I didnt see who it went OOB on I would ask the players. If there wasnt an agreement I would go to the arrow and I needed honesty tonight.

Only had to go to the arrow once when the ball went oob tableside and coaches couldnt agree, players didnt want to trump coach. One coach says " so much for your honesty talk"
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SNIPERBBB Tue Jan 08, 2013 09:20pm

Sometimes getting the other guys check can be a bit of an issue, at least in my area, since majority of the checks we get are written out before the game and the person presenting the checks arent always the person that has the check book.

Rich Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:11pm

Why should the school pay for two officials when they only get one?

Any additional money should come from the official who no showed -- or the association (if one does the assigning).

bainsey Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:22pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871037)
Why should the school pay for two officials when they only get one?

Exactly.

Each association probably has rules regarding payment for one official. It's likely more than the typical two-official fee, but most likely not the combined checks of two.

Loners, I would have taken the one check, and contacted my association to see what the rate is for flying solo. You could always be mailed the difference.

BktBallRef Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:48pm

I wouldn't have asked for the second check.

I also wouldn't have worked the game solo. State association wouldn't want me to work it alone either.

JetMetFan Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:42am

Better to leave with your check and call your association than putting the school on the spot. As was said, it's not the school's fault your partner was AWOL.

For my H.S. games protocol is a fee and a half and I get that directly from the organization.

Stat-Man Wed Jan 09, 2013 01:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by loners4me (Post 871015)
Anyway, at halftime AD came in to say good job. I asked him for my missing partners game check for my troubles. He hem-hawed a bit and I asked a little more firm the second time and he agreed.

Was I in the wrong?

It depends. the policy could be on the state, conference, assignor, etc. level.

Best bet is to see what the policy is for your area and then proceed from there.

representing Wed Jan 09, 2013 01:34am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 871048)
I wouldn't have asked for the second check.

I also wouldn't have worked the game solo. State association wouldn't want me to work it alone either.

My local chapter, not sure about the state, allows for solo referee'ing for any matches except for Varsity. And if I remember correctly, it is automatically "both checks to the solo referee". but I could be wrong. Happened to me once in my first season, but the official showed up within the first quarter. He ended up going to the visitor's school, thinking that was where the game was. Luckily the two schools were only 15-20 minutes apart. He gave me like $10 or something for soloing the first few minutes.

But I agree, I wouldn't have asked or demanded for the second check. I would have simply emailed my assignor and told him the situation, and then have him take care of it from there, whether the school or the chapter gives me extra money for soloing.

Honestly, are we really in it for the money? ;)

Multiple Sports Wed Jan 09, 2013 03:02am

Last year, I worked a D III game and one of my partner's didn't show. Our supervisor tried to get us fee and a half, but contract with conference said that
league would only pay for two of us as contract said three of us.....

Anyway we both got turnbacks later in the season..... for the extra work....

Next time contact your association.....last thing you wanna do is piss off AD and have
AD go to another association for officials...

grunewar Wed Jan 09, 2013 06:29am

Luckily, I've never had to go solo for a full scholastic game with my Association. When I first started, at the MS level, I had a P who was notoriously late. I started w/o him several times and reported it up.

I've done a few Rec Games solo (blech). I get 1.5 game fee for them.

BillyMac Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:00am

Money (Pink Floyd) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 871054)
Better to leave with your check and call your association than putting the school on the spot. For my H.S. games protocol is a fee and a half.

Agree, let your assigner take care of it. Fee and a half is the procedure throughout the Land of Steady Habits.

loners4me Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:21am

Does your opinion change if this school assigns its own games? Asst principal/AD & coach. He keeps the checkbook in his pocket and I knew that.....

Rich Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:40am

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Originally Posted by loners4me (Post 871090)
Does your opinion change if this school assigns its own games? Asst principal/AD & coach. He keeps the checkbook in his pocket and I knew that.....

Probably not. I'm not one to ask for or demand money at the site. I would probably send an email to the AD the next day. Then decide if I'm ever going back there based on the response.

bob jenkins Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 871095)
Probably not. I'm not one to ask for or demand money at the site. I would probably send an email to the AD the next day. Then decide if I'm ever going back there based on the response.

In the OP, the AD may already have decided if the official is going back.

Rich Wed Jan 09, 2013 08:49am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 871096)
In the OP, the AD may already have decided if the official is going back.

Perhaps. But the guy worked solo and the AD told him he did a good job.

Could be they're scarce of bodies at the freshman level at that school.

I just find it unseemly to ask for or demand money on the spot. I've always gotten paid for a game, eventually. And a nice follow-up email the next day that suggests to the AD that it's the right thing to do to pay the official extra would probably go over better.

And I agree with the OP -- if the school is hiring directly and the OP stays and works solo, he should be paid extra.


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