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chicodork Sun Jan 06, 2013 05:56pm
Brain cramp...
 
An earlier post got me thinking about an illegal dribble question...

A1 dribbles downcourt and picks up dribble. B2 knocks it out of A1's hands. Can A1 track it down and dribble again?

Raymond Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:09pm
The lack of replies will jar your memory. :)

maven Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:38pm
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Originally Posted by chicodork (Post 870483)
A1 dribbles downcourt and picks up dribble. B2 knocks it out of A1's hands. Can A1 track it down and dribble again?
What events end a player's dribble such that he can legally dribble again?

Raymond Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:57pm
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Originally Posted by maven (Post 870493)
What events end a player's dribble such that he can legally dribble again?
Watch out, some folks will call you condescending and arrogant for asking such a question. :cool:

just another ref Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicodork (Post 870483)
An earlier post got me thinking about an illegal dribble question...

A1 dribbles downcourt and picks up dribble. B2 knocks it out of A1's hands. Can A1 track it down and dribble again?
Quote:
Originally Posted by maven (Post 870493)
What events end a player's dribble such that he can legally dribble again?
You realize that in this case the end of the dribble and what makes it legal to dribble again are two separate events.

chicodork Sun Jan 06, 2013 06:59pm
In the book, I found the ways a dribble can end, but not when a dribble can begin.

Raymond Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:01pm
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Originally Posted by chicodork (Post 870502)
In the book, I found the ways a dribble can end, but not when a dribble can begin.
You must call a lot of illegal dribbles if you don't know when a player can begin a dribble.

You know a player cannot begin a dribble after lifting his/her pivot foot. And you know a player cannot begin dribble if they jump in the air with the ball. What else are you looking for that will help you with your original scenario.

just another ref Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:02pm
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Originally Posted by chicodork (Post 870502)
In the book, I found the ways a dribble can end, but not when a dribble can begin.
You didn't find when it can begin, because it can begin any time. What cannot begin any time is a second dribble.

Raymond Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:04pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 870507)
You didn't find when it can begin, because it can begin any time. ...
That is not true:

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 870506)
...You know a player cannot begin a dribble after lifting his/her pivot foot. And you know a player cannot begin dribble if they jump in the air with the ball. ...

chicodork Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:05pm
Hey J/O...lighten up, I just asked a question, if it was beneath your incredible intellect to answer, then stay out yo.

maven Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:06pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 870501)
You realize that in this case the end of the dribble and what makes it legal to dribble again are two separate events.
Disagree. 4-15-4d, 9-5-2

chicodork Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:09pm
Yes or no.

BillyMac Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:11pm
What's It Gonna Be Boy ???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicodork (Post 870514)
Yes or no.
Reminds me of a Meatloaf song. I love the Phil Rizzuto part.

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OKREF Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:12pm
Yes.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 06, 2013 07:21pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicodork (Post 870483)
An earlier post got me thinking about an illegal dribble question...

A1 dribbles downcourt and picks up dribble. B2 knocks it out of A1's hands. Can A1 track it down and dribble again?
Do you own a case book? 4.15.4 SITUATION E:


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