First time ever basket interference call, was I correct?
 

Hope all is well folks, first post in a very long time here....

Working a JV tournament yesterday of all things and A1 hits A2 in stride for a wide open layup. A2 goes to dunk the ball but misses it. Ball goes up in the air off the back rim then he grabs the rim and pulls it down. As the ball goes through the hoop I'm calling basket interference on A2, with appropriate static from JV coaches who never see a kid dunk on their level :eek:

I am 100% sure I'm right here, but it's the first time I can remember a kid missing a dunk and the ball going in after he grabs the rim. Pleas enlighten me as to the correctness of my call.

Thank you.

Hey JK...

Go through the criteria from Rule 4-6:

From your description it doesn't sound as though you had BI. What you could have had was a T on A2 for grasping the ring but that would depend on whether you thought he was protecting himself from injury.

As I read the play, this part was violated:
Touches the ball or any part of the basket (including the net) while the ball is on or within either basket

If you are 100% sure you are right why are you asking?

This is a HTBT situation. If a player attempts to dunk and loses the ball above the rim in the process as they grab the rim then I'm inclined to have nothing. I've seen this play before.

If the player clearly releases the ball then subsequently grabs the rim while the ball is on or above the cylinder then I would have basket interference.

Without seeing the play its difficult to comment on whether you ruled correctly or not.

Who You Gonna Call ???
 

Are you sure that this is basket interference?

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6230/6...473e048e_m.jpg

A player cannot touch the ball, ring, or net while the ball is on the ring or within the basket. A player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. These are examples of basket interference. It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring.

Agreed. The rim is pulled down and the ball enters the basket, basket interference. Good call!

He's not asking what you're "inclined" to call. He's asking if he ruled correctly on the play based on his description. The answer is yes.

I agree with Bktballref. There is a case book play on this as well stating that it is offensive BI.

Me too, and thanks to JetMetFan for posting the BI criteria to facilitate the discussion.

This One ???
 

9.11.2 SITUATION B: A1 throws the ball into the basket from above, but from
outside the cylinder. A1’s hand loses contact with the ball before the ball enters
the cylinder. However, on the follow-through, A1’s hand enters the cylinder and
again contacts the ball. RULING: Violation. It is not a violation for a player to have
a hand within the cylinder above the basket provided it is not touching the ball.
The rules do allow a player to carry the ball into the cylinder above the ring or
place the ball into the basket itself. It is basket interference; however, when a player
touches the ball or the basket when the ball is in or on the basket, or touches
the ball while any portion of the ball is touching the cylinder directly above the
basket and the player did not carry the ball into the cylinder or basket. (4-6)

Thought I was familiar with this case play, but I can't seem to locate it.

Where is it?

Contacting the rim whil the ball is in the cylinder is nothing (assuming the grasp itself was legal).

Contacting the rim while the ball is on or in the basket is BI.

I have had to pull out the book to convince (veteran) partners that this is nothing. They were thinking of contacting the ball while it is in the cylinder and extended it to contacting anything....

Good Lord...one of these days I'll remember to trust myself when I write.

That being the case...no BI. The OP doesn't say the rim made contact with the ball as it (the rim) returned to its normal position nor does it say A2 touched the ball while it was in the cylinder. A2 was allowed to be in contact with the ball on the initial shot because he was attempting a dunk.

A2 has pulled the rim down. When the ball enters the basket before the rim returns to it's proper position, that's BI.

Even if it doesn't touch the rim?

In the OP, it doesn't say whether it has returned when the ball enters or not.

It says he's holding the rim while the ball goes through.

Actually it doesn't.

Well, you're right. I read into it.

While it doesn't explicitly say it, the list of events as described say he grabs the rim, pulls it down, then the ball goes trough. I think it is pretty safe to read that as he hadn't let go yet....BI.

I agree, reading that into the OP isn't unreasonable. But only the OP can answer for sure.

Gentlemen, my apologies
 

Please forgive me for my inadequate description of the play. Yes the player was hanging on the rim and it hadn't snapped back into position when the ball went through.

As an official it is so interesting to read through threads and recall how you reacted in a similar play, what you looked for and how your knowledge of the rule determined your call based on what your response to what you see. I remember seeing the ball go in the net before it was snapped back into position, and that's when I called BI.

I should have more confidence in myself than to ask about such a simple question. At least I learned something. Thank you for your time, and again my apologies.

Still Need More Information ...
 

Did the ring contact the ball, or did the ball go straight "through" without contacting the ring?

4-6-4: Basket Interference: Pulls down a movable ring so that it contacts the ball before the ring returns to its original position.

It doesn't matter.

4-6-1: Basket interference: Touches the ball or any part of the basket (including the net) while the ball is on or within either basket.

Always Listen To BktBallRef ...
 

You're right. In contact with basket (ring) when the ball goes through (in the basket) is definitely basket interference. I somehow, mistakenly, pictured the ball in the cylinder, not in the basket, as the ring sprang back into position.

The whole thread makes sense only if the ball went through while the player was still touching it. The only charitable interpretation of the OP is to assume this.

I agree with most of what you said, but THIS (and this alone) is not (yet) basket interference. Only if the basket is still slightly own when the ball comes through would you have BI here.