"Hand checks are NON shooting fouls!"

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Bingo. I just go with whatever seems to come first to my mind.

That said, I will *always* show a hit to the head on a drive regardless if it's in the mechanics chart or not -- especially if it's contact that would likely receive a pass had it been anywhere else -- I want the coaches to know I called it because of the head contact.

I also do this....always have one of the other official tell me that is not the appropriate signal, I always thank them for the info

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

I also do this....always have one of the other official tell me that is not the appropriate signal, I always thank them for the info

Give the approved signal first -- then add the supplementary information

[mj]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Give the approved signal first -- then add the supplementary information

I give the approved signal but verbalize, 'hit them in the head.'

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...as I also do.

JR...how do you VERBALIZE it"?

I hate saying 5 or 6 syllables when reporting...so I usually don't...I just give them the color, number and visual foul signal on an "illegal use of hands".

I like the one syllable fouls (getting rid of the ing)...block...push...hold...charge...

the two syllable fouls...hand check...

the three syllable fouls...team control...double foul (I do verbalize "foul" on this for some reason...probably becuase it is not seen much and it is only two words)

even the four syllable fouls...intentional...player control...technical foul(using "foul" for the same reason listed above)

but that crazy six syllable, four word foul...illegal use of hand...is hard to spit out and sounds weak...IMO.

I verbalize the exactly what happened. I do not say the usual terms or that are in the book, I state the arm they hit, held or pushed and might state other words as description.

For example: "Contact with right arm" while giving the illegal use of hands signal" or "Hand-checking with both arms." while giving the hand-checking signal.

I started doing this after a camp I was asked to be more descriptive and have done it ever since. And I hardly get a single coach say boo about what I called or ask questions if they are paying attention.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Sounds good...but what do the evaluators at the State playoffs tell you about it?

I've done a state QF in front of the state's top dog and she didn't say a word. My visual mechanics are proper. Every college camp I've been to encourages extra verbal communication as part of your game. It eliminates the need to explain your calls to coaches. They know exactly what you have and so do your partners.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Give the approved signal first -- then add the supplementary information

I do!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

I do!

Depending on who the other official is, then ignore him/her.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...as I also do.

JR...how do you VERBALIZE it"?

I hate saying 5 or 6 syllables when reporting...so I usually don't...I just give them the color, number and visual foul signal on an "illegal use of hands".

I like the one syllable fouls (getting rid of the ing)...block...push...hold...charge...

the two syllable fouls...hand check...

the three syllable fouls...team control...double foul (I do verbalize "foul" on this for some reason...probably becuase it is not seen much and it is only two words)

even the four syllable fouls...intentional...player control...technical foul(using "foul" for the same reason listed above)

but that crazy six syllable, four word foul...illegal use of hand...is hard to spit out and sounds weak...IMO.

I say just "hands".

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I say just "hands".

I like it...I have used "with the hand" in the past...but, I like the one word "hands"....thanks for your reply.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Sounds good...but what do the evaluators at the State playoffs tell you about it?

There's the big question.

It sounds to me like this all comes back to Roman Law. Here, we wouldn't get away with "hit" or "hack," nor would a re-enacted shot to the head suffice. If that's the way it's done in your area, though, do it.

I got my local answers regarding hand-checking on shooting fouls. Go with yours.