T or no T?

[egj13]

As always to each his own...if I am under the basket and a kid says something to me at a level only the immediate area can hear he usually gets a pass with me. But at the same time he curses, or tells me I suck...something personal..he gets whacked. The last 2 people I whacked were for arm motion only without words...one coach and one player at the top of the key. But after 20+ years of officiating multiple sports my skin is fairly thick...

I do the same in baseball...kid looks down towards the plate and says "you missed that one blue" gets a pass...same kid looks back in my direction without saying a word but shows everyone in the park his disapproval...better be swinging the next pitch I don't care where it is.

[Adam]

I don't think we're too far apart. Some things get addressed more quickly if they're loud, but it's usually more about tone than anything else. Other times, a quiet comment gets ignored while the same words get shouted and earn a T.

My only point was that saying it quietly without gestures isn't an automatic pass just because no one knows it was said. Coach or player quietly says "Your partner is a ....", that's a T regardless of volume or gestures.

[Adam]

And I've had plenty of vet partners who bragged about thick skin but just wouldn't take care of business. It doesn't mean much, frankly.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by egj13

I do the same in baseball...kid looks down towards the plate and says "you missed that one blue" gets a pass...same kid looks back in my direction without saying a word but shows everyone in the park his disapproval...better be swinging the next pitch I don't care where it is.

I know we have some other baseball guys on this board. Do you do the same thing? I am looking at this as either hyperbole or kind of a foul (pun intended) practice. If a ball is extremely outside, would you still call it a strike?

Originally Posted by Adam

And I've had plenty of vet partners who bragged about thick skin but just wouldn't take care of business. It doesn't mean much, frankly.

Exactly!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I know we have some other baseball guys on this board. Do you do the same thing? I am looking at this as either hyperbole or kind of a foul (pun intended) practice. If a ball is extremely outside, would you still call it a strike?

First of all baseball is a whole different animal. There would be a little more dialog from me to a batter if they showed they were not happy with a call. I have a mask on and can say a lot of things that will never be heard directly. Harder to read lips too. You really cannot compare the sports because of the nature of the eyes in basketball and proximity to others and the mores of the sports.

Peace

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by tomegun

If a ball is extremely outside, would you still call it a strike?

No... but if the ball is barely outside, it was not barely outside. There are some who believe in the FYC call - I've never been one of them, and usually those that say they will do this, do not do it in actuality.

[jeremy341a]

Thanks for all the replies. At the time it felt like he was questioning our integrity. Nice to see both sides of it.