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egj13 Mon Dec 17, 2012 02:47pm

5 second call on the backcourt
 
8th grade game...partner calls 5 seconds in the back court. How many of you would have called him over and "over-ruled" him on that?

tomegun Mon Dec 17, 2012 02:51pm

Nobody should over-rule him, everybody should provide information to possibly prevent him from kicking a rule. After that, it is up to him.

Adam Mon Dec 17, 2012 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by egj13 (Post 867286)
8th grade game...partner calls 5 seconds in the back court. How many of you would have called him over and "over-ruled" him on that?

I will approach him and verify his call, giving him the information needed to change his call. He will make the final choice.

bainsey Mon Dec 17, 2012 03:06pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 867293)
I will approach him and verify his call, giving him the information needed to change his call. He will make the final choice.

There it is.

FWIW, I had one last year where my partner called a backcourt violation, when there was no team control in bounds. I approached him and gave him the info. He fixed it himself.

Raymond Mon Dec 17, 2012 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by egj13 (Post 867286)
8th grade game...partner calls 5 seconds in the back court. How many of you would have called him over and "over-ruled" him on that?

Was it a girls game? Do they use NCAA-W's rules for girls in Montana?

JRutledge Mon Dec 17, 2012 03:57pm

And we should not be surprised by this at that level. I know I am not.

Peace

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Dec 17, 2012 04:03pm

Legal for NCAA Women's and FIBA.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. That said, at the level of game involved in the OP, I would have had a quick chat with my partner to give him a chance to admit to an inadvertent whistle.

egj13 Mon Dec 17, 2012 04:14pm

1. I put "over-ruled" in quotations because I didn't tell him what to do..just encouraged him to see his error.

2. It was a boys game but we do not use NCAA-W for this level in MT. NFHS rules were in effect.

Adam Mon Dec 17, 2012 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by egj13 (Post 867316)
1. I put "over-ruled" in quotations because I didn't tell him what to do..just encouraged him to see his error.

2. It was a boys game but we do not use NCAA-W for this level in MT. NFHS rules were in effect.

If he was dribbling, I don't think it would have mattered.

bob jenkins Mon Dec 17, 2012 04:29pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 867318)
If he was dribbling, I don't think it would have mattered.

that's correct.

BillyMac Mon Dec 17, 2012 05:21pm

Inquiring Minds Want To Know ???
 
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 867314)
Legal for NCAA Women.

I know more about neo Greek classic sculpture than I do about NCAA Womens rules, but can't you have a closely guarded five second holding count in the backcourt? If so, how many feet?

MD Longhorn Mon Dec 17, 2012 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by billymac (Post 867328)
i know more about neo-classic greek sculpture than i do about ncaa womens rules, but can't you have a closely guarded five second holding count in the backcourt? If so, how many feet?

fify

Adam Mon Dec 17, 2012 06:00pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 867337)
fify

Nerd

BillyMac Mon Dec 17, 2012 06:40pm

Pointt Proven ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 867337)
fify

I told you that I didn't know a lot about it. Now, about that five second closely guarded holding call in the backcourt?

maven Mon Dec 17, 2012 07:14pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 867293)
I will approach him and verify his call, giving him the information needed to change his call. He will make the final choice.

He will, but depending on the circumstances we might not continue until he makes the right choice. :)

Adam Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:41pm

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 867359)
He will, but depending on the circumstances we might not continue until he makes the right choice. :)

I can be very convincing, especially with new guys.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:16am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 867328)
I know more about neo Greek classic sculpture than I do about NCAA Womens rules, but can't you have a closely guarded five second holding count in the backcourt? If so, how many feet?

3 feet anywhere on the court.

maven Tue Dec 18, 2012 02:34pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 867377)
I can be very convincing, especially with new guys.

OK, but you're bigger than me. :D

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:33pm

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 867534)
OK, but you're bigger than me. :D

Don't agitate.

Adam Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:39pm

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 867534)
OK, but you're bigger than me. :D

It's the new kindlier gentlier me, much more charming.

And I'm a relatively big guy. But I'm shrinking.

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:45pm

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 867534)
OK, but you're bigger than me. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 867653)
It's the new kindlier gentlier me, much more charming.

And I'm a relatively big guy. But I'm shrinking.

Don't ask why. He will give you 90 reasons.

jeschmit Wed Dec 19, 2012 09:00am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 867328)
I know more about neo Greek classic sculpture than I do about NCAA Womens rules, but can't you have a closely guarded five second holding count in the backcourt? If so, how many feet?

Rule 4, Section 13
Art. 2. (Women) A player in control of the ball anywhere on the playing court while holding (not dribbling) the ball is closely guarded when her opponent is in a guarding stance at a distance not exceeding 3 feet. This distance shall be measured from the forward foot or feet of the defender to the forward foot or feet of the opponent.

Adam Wed Dec 19, 2012 09:30am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 867656)
Don't ask why. He will give you 90 reasons.

Not yet. Just 52.

Oh, and shut up.


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