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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:05am
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:10am
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4-19: A foul is an infraction of the rules which is charged and is penalized.

The charging foul was neither charged nor penalized. There was no charging foul.

A guy made a signal which he realized was wrong.

It means nothing.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:48am
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4-19: A foul is an infraction of the rules which is charged and is penalized.

The charging foul was neither charged nor penalized. There was no charging foul.

A guy made a signal which he realized was wrong.

It means nothing.
Let's just finish this off right now.

This is the part where everyone just points you to the case book play. You then might try and nitpick about something about when signals are signals or since when are signals binding...at which people everyone will ignore you again.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:53am
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Let's just finish this off right now.

This is the part where everyone just points you to the case book play. You then might try and nitpick about something about when signals are signals or since when are signals binding...at which people everyone will ignore you again.
To date, this "nitpicking" has been disputed only by "just cuz."

When you have no actual evidence, that's what you do, you ignore the question.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:04am
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To date, this "nitpicking" has been disputed only by "just cuz."

When you have no actual evidence, that's what you do, you ignore the question.
Nah, people tend to ignore debates where there is none...

But hey, by all means, go ahead and continue your one man crusade.
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:26pm
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So let me see if I understand this JAR...I can blow my whistle, signal a violation/rules infraction, confer with my partner, and simply change my mind/partner can overrule me?

Coach: "you blew the whistle & signaled!"
Me: "you're right. It was in my primary 2ft from me, but my partner says we can't call that foul on the other teams' best player...that would be his 5th."
Coach: WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
Me: "Coach, doesn't matter if I signaled it. It's NOTHING til I report it."

I guess I understand it better now.
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:33pm
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So let me see if I understand this JAR...I can blow my whistle, signal a violation/rules infraction, confer with my partner, and simply change my mind/partner can overrule me?

Coach: "you blew the whistle & signaled!"
Me: "you're right. It was in my primary 2ft from me, but my partner says we can't call that foul on the other teams' best player...that would be his 5th."
Coach: WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
Me: "Coach, doesn't matter if I signaled it. It's NOTHING til I report it."

I guess I understand it better now.
Not that I agree with JAR on anything blarge related, there are plenty of scenarios where one "blow[s] [the] whistle, signal[s] a violation/rules infraction, confer[s] with [a] partner, and simply change [one's] mind/partner [overrules]."
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Old Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:38pm
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So let me see if I understand this JAR...I can blow my whistle, signal a violation/rules infraction, confer with my partner, and simply change my mind/partner can overrule me?
Your partner cannot overrule you, that is certain. 2-6

Other than that, as far as I know we all agree that, yes, an official can blow his whistle and make a signal, then for whatever reason, report a different infraction or no infraction at all,

EXCEPT IN THIS SITUATION.

My question is why is this situation different than any other. This question has never been answered.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:33am
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