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newbie94 Sun Dec 09, 2012 03:57pm

Please help! Is this a travel?
 
Hey everyone,

Is this a travel at 55min21sec?

Through the fire 2005 - YouTube

It's confusing me because unlike a regular lay up, the player picks up the ball on the right foot, then jumps and lands on the right instead of the left, then follows with a regular lay up. so the sequence is right(stop dribbling), right , left jump off left....normally a lay up is left(stop dribbling) then right step, left step, jump off left.

Thanks!!!

just another ref Sun Dec 09, 2012 04:04pm

With the benefit of replay, yes it is, but in real time I can see where it might have been difficult to see when he actually caught the ball/ended the dribble.

deecee Sun Dec 09, 2012 04:08pm

even in real time it looked like a travel.

APG Sun Dec 09, 2012 04:30pm

That's a travel under NFHS, NCAA, and NBA rules.

newbie94 Sun Dec 09, 2012 04:44pm

thanks guys!! ...this explains why the move is so effective, its illegal :P

Freddy Sun Dec 09, 2012 04:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie94 (Post 865872)
thanks guys!! ...this explains why the move is so effective, its illegal :P

I think that's what's popularly known as the old "Attempted Jump Stop with an Unsimultaneous Shoes Touch to the Floor" move.

stiffler3492 Sun Dec 09, 2012 04:59pm

How about the block/charge at 56:20. Looked to me like the secondary defender slid in after Telfair was already airborne.

SAK Sun Dec 09, 2012 06:59pm

Looked to me like the secondary defender didn't establish himself with LGP prior to contact. Shooter was airborne.

JugglingReferee Sun Dec 09, 2012 07:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbie94 (Post 865865)
Hey everyone,

Is this a travel at 55min21sec?

Through the fire 2005 - YouTube

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JugglingReferee Sun Dec 09, 2012 07:04pm

That is a travel that should not be missed.

As for 56:20, I have a block.

ballgame99 Mon Dec 10, 2012 01:45pm

ahhh, the old jump gallop move, one of my pet peeves. Travel!!

HawkeyeCubP Mon Dec 10, 2012 08:50pm

I'll bite on the travel
 
It looks to me like he ends his dribble with both feet off the floor. Am I completely seeing that wrong?

AKOFL Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 866111)
It looks to me like he ends his dribble with both feet off the floor. Am I completely seeing that wrong?

i thought so too. slowing it down he picked it up with his right foot on the ground.

constable Tue Dec 11, 2012 01:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 865871)
That's a travel under NFHS, NCAA, and NBA rules.

and fiba

Rich Tue Dec 11, 2012 01:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 865907)
That is a travel that should not be missed.

As for 56:20, I have a block.

I like to call this the "everything's a charge" syndrome, which took effect years after "everything's a block" syndrome was cured. Whenever there's a collision and it's reasonably close, many officials ship it the other way rather than properly officiate the defense.


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