Player enters a court without being beckoned.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

By rule, a T on the player for entering without being beckoned.

Also by rule, once you blow the whistle, whether you call the T or not, it is now a legal opportunity to sub and that player is allowed in.

Unlikely that's the way it's going to get handled by many officials, though.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Also by rule, once you blow the whistle, whether you call the T or not, it is now a legal opportunity to sub and that player is allowed in.

Originally Posted by Rich

Unlikely that's the way it's going to get handled by many officials, though.

By rule, there is no legal way that I can prevent that eligible substitute from entering the game at that point. If you go by the book, you can't get in trouble.

[refiator]

I wouldn't assess a T in this case...Unless I can T the table.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by refiator

Unless I can T the table.

... and then make them all sit down. That'll teach 'em.

[just another ref]

Hard to overlook two things. Dead ball horn, no beckon, he walks in, quickly jump in front and stop him. Horn and he walks onto the court during a live ball, he's asking for it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Dead ball horn, no beckon, he walks in, quickly jump in front and stop him.

That's the way we handle this specific situation here in my little corner of Connecticut. I never seen a technical foul charged in this specific situation. Most of us will actually make the player go all the way back to the table, and only then, beckon him into the game.

[zm1283]

I have rarely had problems with this up until this season for some reason. It seems like every other game (Maybe it's most of the JV games?) I am getting kids just coming on to the court without us beckoning them. Usually it is when the whistle is blown for a foul, and before I can get to the table to report it they are starting to come on the court. I just wave them back to the table, report the foul, then beckon them. Part of this is on the table crew, as some of them hit the horn as soon as they hear the whistle and the kids are like Pavlov's dogs with the horn.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Rich

Unlikely that's the way it's going to get handled by many officials, though.

Have to agree with Rich...

...we had a similar situation the other night in a BV game. I had just handed the ball to the "thrower"...and before he released the ball, a player ran on the court at the same time my partner was blowing his whistle. This was after a TO, and since the player had not reported before the first horn we made the player wait untill the next opportunity to sub.

My partner later said he did not know that I had given the ball to the "thrower"...which seems odd because we have worked a lot of games together (20 plus years) and we always try to get eye contact with each other before a throw-in. (this was 3 whistle crew)

...anyway...we discussed this at our association meeting and let the group have a good laugh at us. I, good naturedly, *****ed my partner out in front of the group and said we should have T'd up the player for running onto the court.

Probably good that we didn't T up the player...because my partner blew his whistle to let the sub in... (Inadvertant whistle)

Would any of you have let the sub in the game in this situation?