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HawkeyeCubP Thu Dec 06, 2012 06:08pm

False double foul type-things
 
Situation:
  • In the 2nd period, substitute B45 enters the game.
  • Team A is in the bonus (8 fouls against Team B).
  • Dribbler A20 is fouled by B45.
  • A20 reacts to the foul by taking a swing at B45.
  • Scorer notifies reporting official that B45 is not in the book.
  • B head coach explains that B45 was formerly B31, but switched jerseys between periods because of blood on jersey.

My HS ruling:
  1. INSTRUCT SCORER TO CHANGE B31’S # TO B45 IN THE BOOK WITHOUT PENALTY (that’s an exception to the changing a number in the book after the 10-min. pregame mark rule – blood on uniform – so no administrative team technical foul for that)
  2. ENSURE SCORER HAS THAT COMMON FOUL ON B45 IN THE BOOK (make sure scorer adds it to the team B foul total)
  3. REPORT FLAGRANT TECHNICAL FOUL FOR FIGHTING ON A20 (AND A20 IS DISQUALIFIED) (make sure scorer adds it to the team A foul total)
  4. REPORT FLAGRANT TECHNICAL ON B45 FOR CHANGING NUMBER WITHOUT NOTIFYING AN OFFICIAL AND THE SCORER (AND B45 IS DISQUALIFIED) (make sure scorer adds it to team B foul total)
  5. Then go in the order that the fouls occurred:
  1. ANY ELIGIBLE TEAM A SUBSTITUTE SHOOTS A20’S 1-AND-1 (it was still the 9th foul – not the 10th, even though there are now 10 team fouls on the board) WITH LANE CLEARED (SINCE A20 HAS BEEN DISQUALIFIED)
  2. ANY ELIGIBLE TEAM B MEMBER SHOOTS THE 2 FT’S FOR A20’S FLAGRANT TECHNICAL FOUL
  3. ANY ELIGIBLE TEAM A MEMBER SHOOTS THE 2 FT’S FOR B45’S FLAGRANT TECHNICAL FOUL
  4. THROW-IN FOR TEAM A AT DIVISION LINE OPPOSITE THE TABLE
Grade me and discuss.

Adam Thu Dec 06, 2012 06:31pm

#4 doesn't seem right.

HawkeyeCubP Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 865454)
#4 doesn't seem right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10-3-1
A player shall not:
Participate after changing his/her number without reporting it to the scorer and an official.
PENALTY: (Art. 1) Flagrant foul. Penalized if discovered while being violated.

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just another ref Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:42pm

Can anyone explain (or speculate) why this is charged to the player while other issues involving illegal uniforms and numbers are charged to the team or the coach?

Camron Rust Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 865484)
Can anyone explain (or speculate) why this is charged to the player while other issues involving illegal uniforms and numbers are charged to the team or the coach?

The player personally changed the jersey after being listed with a different number but didn't buy the illegal jersey that was provided by the team.

It is probably intended to address a player who has several fouls swapping jerseys with another player who doesn't with the hope that no one notices and they can play up to 7, 8, or even 9 fouls.


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