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Old Sun Dec 09, 2012, 11:02pm
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I dont see a travel
I don't see pass interference either.
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Old Sun Dec 09, 2012, 11:22pm
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Looks like the big kid with the ball at the beginning of the clip travels ...
I was waiting for somebody to pick up on the "bunny hop" before the shot and the alleged travel.
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Old Mon Dec 10, 2012, 09:46pm
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I was waiting for somebody to pick up on the "bunny hop" before the shot and the alleged travel.
Same here. The bunny hop was more of a concern to me than the kid who took the fling at the buzzer. We let too many shooters get away with that move.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:06pm
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Same here. The bunny hop was more of a concern to me than the kid who took the fling at the buzzer. We let too many shooters get away with that move.
No way this is a travel on 3 pointer. White team player 'catches ball with one foot (his left foot at :06 on video) , he then jumps off this foot and lands on 2 feet simultaneously.
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:07am
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any disagree that this is not walk on 3 pointer
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:29am
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:33pm
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Love a good debate or fight, especially when people call a travel and can't explain the why ....... would you call this a travel???
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 08:53pm
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Love a good debate or fight, especially when people call a travel and can't explain the why ....... would you call this a travel???
ok, I'll play. No, I don't disagree with you, there was no travel by the white shooter. However, the shot was this player's 2nd possession, I think there's an easy travel call on his first possession.
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 09:41pm
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ok, I'll play. No, I don't disagree with you, there was no travel by the white shooter. However, the shot was this player's 2nd possession, I think there's an easy travel call on his first possession.
Ok.......how and where???
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Old Wed Dec 12, 2012, 10:09pm
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I don't have a travel at any point in this video.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:46am
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I don't have a travel at any point in this video.
Me either, I have none. I don't see how you could call a travel at any time.
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APG and JumpStop

APG and JumpStop:

Pay close attention to the the White player (w1) who attempted the three-point FG which the Blue player (B10 rebounded and then flung the ball three-fourths of the length of the court for the buzzer beater.

W1 received a pass from W2 with both feet in contact with the court, he then raised his right foot, hopped forward off his left foot with his right foot landing first followed by his left foot, AND then jumped off both feet to shot the three-point FGA. That is traveling.

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Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:07pm
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APG and JumpStop:

Pay close attention to the the White player (w1) who attempted the three-point FG which the Blue player (B10 rebounded and then flung the ball three-fourths of the length of the court for the buzzer beater.

W1 received a pass from W2 with both feet in contact with the court
(He recieved pass with left foot on floor- right foot is off floor at :06 ,
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he then raised his right foot
(foot already raised),
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hopped forward off his left foot
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with his right foot landing first followed by his left foot
(too close to call hear , initially it looked like no way he could land simultaneously but it was very close, too close to call.,
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AND then jumped off both feet to shot the three-point FGA
(player allowed to jump and shoot).
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That is traveling.

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Best way to view this is to enlarge screen ,press pause, put mouse arrow on red line and click on :05-07 seconds and you can slowly watch play.

Now if we have to do this to make call , should you really be calling a travel??
You are totally going by the "look " when making this call.
My personal belief is the top rated officials would never call this a travel.

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Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:19pm
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Best way to view this is to enlarge screen ,press pause, put mouse arrow on red line and click on :05-07 seconds and you can slowly watch play.

Now if we have to do this to make call , should you really be calling a travel??
You are totally going by the "look " when making this call.
My personal belief is the top rated officials would never call this a travel.
Lets see. Lifts right foot, jumps off of left foot, lands with his right. Then his left foot returns to the floor, and he didn't pass or shoot the ball prior to the pivot foot returning to the floor. Travel.
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Old Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:49pm
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Best way to view this is to enlarge screen ,press pause, put mouse arrow on red line and click on :05-07 seconds and you can slowly watch play.

Now if we have to do this to make call , should you really be calling a travel??
You are totally going by the "look " when making this call.
My personal belief is the top rated officials would never call this a travel.

Listen up whippersnapper.

I am 61 years old and this is my 42nd year as a basketball official. During those 42 years I officiated women's college basketball for 34 years (I was the first male to officiate women's college basketball in Florida and one of the first in the Southeast USA; including 18 Div. I playoff games and 20 jr. college playoff games); I officiated men's college basketball for fifteen years; and was a USA Basketball Referee for fifteen years). I have officiated over forty AAU and YBOA Boys' and Girls' National Championship Tournaments including three YBOA Girls' National Championship Games. I have officiated the Ohio Special Olympics Final Four for over twenty straight years and was chosen to officiate in the Special Olympics World Summer Games in 1999. I have been a rules interpreter, instructional chairman, and have served on IAABO National Committees and been a staffer at IAABO Camps.

Any competent basketball official will call that traveling because it was traveling. The first time I watched the play I watched in full size and I called it traveling the first time I saw it. I didn't call it by "feel", I called it because W1 traveled as defined in the rules, and I mean NFHS, NCAA, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA rules; try reading them sometime.

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P.S. MTD, Jr., called it traveling too, the first time he saw it and this is only his sixth year of officiating.
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