Originally Posted by Dave9819 (Post 864362)

I was reading the rule book, and just want to make sure I am understanding correctly.

The rule book states that a player can jump from his/her front court, catch the ball while in the air, and land in their backcourt without committing a backcourt violation during a jump ball, throw-in, or while on defense.

So, if, on a throw-in by Team A, even if the ball is tipped by either team, Team B can jump from their front court, catch the ball in the air, and land in their backcourt with no violation?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 864390)

Check out 9-9-3 and Case Book 9.9.1 - "The exception granted during a throw-in ends when the throw-in ends and is only for the player making the initial touch on the ball."

Originally Posted by maven (Post 864404)

THAT exception ends. But the exception for the defense remains in effect.

Originally Posted by APG (Post 864417)

2007-2008 Basketball Interpretations:

SITUATION 7: Team A is making a throw-in near the division line in the team's backcourt (Team B's frontcourt). A1's throw-in is deflected by B1, who is applying direct pressure on A1. B2 jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches the ball in the air and lands in the backcourt. RULING: Backcourt violation on Team B. The throw-in ends with B1's deflection (legal touch). When B2 gains possession/ control in the air, he/she has frontcourt status. A backcourt violation has occurred when B2 lands in backcourt. (9-9-1; 9-9-3)

As far as I know that ruling hasn't changed, and since NFHS told us last year that we called backcourt plays as we have before even w/o team control added to the throw-in, I think the OP's play is technically a backcourt violation.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 864423)

It seems that the case play and rule as written are contradictory on this scenario. Isn't B still on defense in this play? Even thought the throw in has ended because of B1's tip, B is still on defense as A still is in team control. B2 secures the ball in the air and lands in the backcourt.
Article 3 states "During a jump ball, throw-in or while ON DEFENSE, a player MAY JUMP HIS/HER FRONTCOURT, SECURE CONTROL OF THE BALL WITH WITH BOTH FEET OFF THE FLOOR AND RETURN TO THE WITH ONE OR BOTH FEET IN THE BACKCOURT. the player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt.

What am I missing?

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 864428)

No.

That element is referring to REAL team control. The whole definition of team control has been really confused by the NFHS.

Through the various interpretations and explanations that have been given by the NFHS, you can basically consider the defined "TEAM CONTROL" and everything that depends on team control to begin when a player holds or dribbles the ball in bounds (when player control begins). Separately, you can consider any foul by the throwing team during a throwin as a team control foul even though there is not actually "TEAM CONTROL".

What they're really after is two levels of team control....one that begins on the throwin and affects only fouls and another that begins when a player catches/dribbles the ball inbounds.

Originally Posted by APG (Post 864417)

2007-2008 Basketball Interpretations:

SITUATION 7: Team A is making a throw-in near the division line in the team's backcourt (Team B's frontcourt). A1's throw-in is deflected by B1, who is applying direct pressure on A1. B2 jumps from his/her frontcourt, catches the ball in the air and lands in the backcourt. RULING: Backcourt violation on Team B. The throw-in ends with B1's deflection (legal touch). When B2 gains possession/ control in the air, he/she has frontcourt status. A backcourt violation has occurred when B2 lands in backcourt. (9-9-1; 9-9-3)

As far as I know that ruling hasn't changed, and since NFHS told us last year that we called backcourt plays as we have before even w/o team control added to the throw-in, I think the OP's play is technically a backcourt violation.

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 864473)

Until the NFHS defines offense and defense, this will always be an issue.

In spite of this interp, I agree with maven. I truly don't see why B1 wouldn't be considered a defender in this situation, which means that there's an exception and no violation has occurred, throw-in or not.

Originally Posted by APG (Post 864476)

The interpretation makes no sense to me. Quite frankly, to me, it's an idiotic interpretation, especially in light of adding team control to the throw-in. To everyone who knows the game of basketball, the throw-in team is the offense and the other team is the defense. I'd also venture a guess that this play gets passed on more than it would get called.

Originally Posted by bktballref (Post 864478)

i know one who's going to pass on it. ;)