Making Coach sit

[Refk]

Working with new partner last night and HC getting a bit unruly with him, partner talks with HC and he sits down. Partner comes to me at next timeout and says he told the coach to sit down for the rest of the game or he would be ejected.

Question: Is this a method one should use or stick to more conventional method --- warn , T , etc...

I normally warn coach then if needed administer T (which seatbelts him in my area ) never really told coach to "sit down or else". I have told them I've heard enough but never "sit them down" ??

BTW my partner was great to work with and the coach did settle down.

Thanks

[jdmara]

It's NEVER good to make threats IMO

Warn and then "T"

-Josh

[APG]

No that's not the correct method to use. What happens if the coach decides to stand up and use his box legally? How is he going to eject a coach for doing nothing wrong? How will you write/report that to your assignor and/or state? There are other tools, that are well within our means of authority, to calm a coach down.

[JRutledge]

I have no problem with a threat, I have a problem with the wording. Threats can be implied by using better language. You can say the same thing without using the word "ejected." You can make it clear to a coach or player that their behavior is unacceptable and if it continues you might leave me with little choices. If you make any comment about being penalized you are making a threat IMO. It just might be implied instead of explicit.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Charge the coach with a technical foul and then he sits (with legal exceptions). No other way, by rule, to get him to sit. If you follow the rules the phone call you get that night from your assigning commissioner will be a lot easier to answer.

[Refk]

Thanks for the feedback.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have no problem with a threat, I have a problem with the wording. Threats can be implied by using better language. You can say the same thing without using the word "ejected." You can make it clear to a coach or player that their behavior is unacceptable and if it continues you might leave me with little choices. If you make any comment about being penalized you are making a threat IMO. It just might be implied instead of explicit.

Peace

I agree with you, but BillyMac's answer is the best one -- if you want a coach to sit, you gotta call a technical foul. That will sit him down -- anything else is really outside the rules.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Rich

but BillyMac's answer is the best one --

I can't believe you put that in writing and THEN posted it!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

BillyMac's answer is the best one.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

I agree with you, but BillyMac's answer is the best one -- if you want a coach to sit, you gotta call a technical foul. That will sit him down -- anything else is really outside the rules.

I was not disagreeing with Billy really, just stating that we threaten all the time but we try to act like that is not what we call certain types of comments. Anytime we give a warning we are on some level threatening them with something no matter how blatant the comments can be seen by those receiving them.

Peace

[Adam]

I really don't like painting myself into a corner like the OP. It's putting you into the likely position of either having to lose your credibility or toss a coach for coaching his kids legally.

[Tio]

This is not a smart strategy at all.

First off, the coach by rule, has the right to use the coaching box. You can't eject him for simply standing and coaching. In HS, a technical foul results in loss of the coaching box privilege but in NCAA, the coach can still use the box after a technical foul.

Either way, threatening a coach in this regard is never a good thing. It sounds like he went too far and should have received a tech.