Major Rule Differences between NFHS and NCAA (Men's)
 

Doing some post grad this weekend and just want to make sure i'm on top of my major rules differences....

1. Can't call timeout going out of bounds.
2. Shot Clock
3. 3p line different
4. Goaltending rule...

Any other major ones i should be on the lookout for?

Free throws and when people can enter...

Or you can you find a chart in the back of the rule or case book that notes the major differences. ;)

Books are at home... assignor gave games at 2 a.m. this morning for tonight :o)

You should have grabbed your books when you grabbed your bag. ;)

If you have access to either rule set's online publications then you can find the differences there also.

www.nfhs.org/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=7904

It's a PDF file from the NFHS site with this year's major differences.

Have to grab my bag on the way to the game.... didn't check email between 2 a.m and 8 a.m.

Out of Bounds ? ---

In NFHS you can save the ball back in bounds while falling out of bounds and be the first to touch it if you re establish yourself as being inbounds.

In NCAA rules that's different?

What makes you think the rule is different?

Peace

In link above:

Player Out of Bounds
Violation called as soon as player leaves the court for an unauthorized reason (NFHS)

Violation called when player returns and is first to touch ball inbounds(NCAA)

NCAA 9-4-1
A player who steps out of bounds under his/her own volition and then becomes the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court has committed a violation.

NFHS, are you calling a violation if the player saves the ball and goes out of bounds while doing this?

The key is under your own volition, not just going out of bounds. If you go out under your own volition in the NF game, you have committed a violation and do not need to touch the ball to have this called.

Peace

Doesn't apply to the play you describe ("saving the ball while falling OOB") -- that's not "leaving of your own volition".

The rule difference applies on a play where the baseline cutter runs out of bounds (perhaps to set up the screen) and then looks to receive a pass from the wing.

In HS, that's (supposed to be) an immediate violation (as soon as the player runs OOB). In NCAA, it's a violation only if the player is the first (next) to touch the ball after returning.

Correct. If player jumps to save the ball and momentum makes them land out of bounds, and they are the first to touch after establishing on the court. Violation?

Legal play under FED and NCAA rules.

Just touching the ball...no.

so this only applies when a person is not "saving" a ball from going oob?

Applies to any player who intentionally goes out of bounds, returns, and is the first to touch the ball.

So in summary ---

NFHS casebook 7.1.1 -- says legal you can be first to touch
&
NCAA 9-4-1 --says illegal you can't be first to touch?

You do not understand the difference between going out of bounds because you momentum takes you out of bounds and running out of bounds to get some kind of advantage or on purpose?

Saving the ball is not going out on your own volition or to get a clear advantage. Running around a screen is or running around someone to beat someone to the ball is also apart of that rule.

Peace

No.

well, it's correct that those plays / rules say what you indicate. But, they are referring to two different plays, so you can't make a comparison.

A better comparison would be FED 9.3.3B and NCAA AR 219

No, you're mixing two different things. NFHS 7.1.1 Situation D (a) would be the same in both codes.

Fed says if you go OOB intentionally, the ball is dead immediately.

NCAA-M says if you go OOB intentionally, return, and are the first to touch the ball then it's a violation.

Here's the NCAA case:
A.R. 219:

Team A sets a double screen for A1, who leaves the playing court voluntarily and runs under the basket, circles around, returns to the playing court and then is the first to receive the ball.

RULING: A violation has been committed by A1 for leaving the playing court and then becoming the first player to touch the ball upon return.

NFHS 7.1.1 applies exactly the same in NCAA.

NCAA 9-4-1 applies to "PURPOSEDLY" going OOB and returning. In NCAA it's only a violation if you are the next person to catch the pass. In NFHS is an immediate violation.

You are mixing up 2 entirely different rules/concepts.