Joey Crawford....I think he called a block

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Rich

Personally, I think it's great to see a little style from the officials. Soon you'll see none of that at all and, IMO, the game will be worse off for it.

OHSAA has told us explicitly NOT to do this mechanic.

[APG]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

OHSAA has told us explicitly NOT to do this mechanic.

Fist on hips for a block? You won't find me donig it any other way (save for the theatrics shown here). The "by the book way" IMO is a weak signal (that and the PC signal).

[Rich]

Originally Posted by APG

Fist on hips for a block? You won't find me donig it any other way (save for the theatrics shown here). The "by the book way" IMO is a weak signal (that and the PC signal).

You and I think alike.

The hands on hips is a weak mechanic. So is the hand behind the head on a PC foul. A crisp punch in the other direction is a much stronger call.

I had a block on a drive down the lane last night. Big collision, both players on the floor. I probably didn't ham it up as much as Crawford, but I remember banging the hips twice, saying, "Block, Block."

There's nothing wrong with selling a close one. On the video shown, it seems to me like he's overselling one that he probably got wrong.

[rekent]

Originally Posted by Rich

... The hands on hips is a weak mechanic. So is the hand behind the head on a PC foul. A crisp punch in the other direction is a much stronger call. ...

Technically, I was "taught" the formal book call, but the hands on the hips beyond being weak just feels somewhat awkward and unnatural to do. I have always though the fists are perfectly fine as long as the mechanic is done correctly and the fists don't make their way around front.

Originally Posted by Rich

... it seems to me like he's overselling one that he probably got wrong.

Understatement of the week?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by APG

Fist on hips for a block? You won't find me donig it any other way (save for the theatrics shown here). The "by the book way" IMO is a weak signal (that and the PC signal).

I had a supervisor tell me that the 'open-hand to waist' block signal for a man of my size looked very.....un-masculine (to keep things PC).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

OHSAA has told us explicitly NOT to do this mechanic.

I hear that opinion a lot, and then no one hardly says a word when done on a call. Like others said I would do the same as Joey other than the running half way up the court or the frequency, but the fist part would be done the exact same. I do not have the time to fix my hands in a way where they can be open and touch my hips.

Peace

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I hear that opinion a lot, and then no one hardly says a word when done on a call. Like others said I would do the same as Joey other than the running half way up the court or the frequency, but the fist part would be done the exact same. I do not have the time to fix my hands in a way where they can be open and touch my hips.

Peace

To clarify...they don't like the repeated banging of the hips and general hot dogging on the call. One of the states pet peeves.

[APG]

Just want to state that this isn't par for any signaling in the NBA or Joe Crawford

[drofficial]

And we all agree that he O player traveled at the beginning of the move to the basket. Left foot is pivot foot, clealy picks up left foot before releasing ball to start dribble. Travel. Then he charged. This is a perfect example where if the travel rule were officiated as written, we could prevent a lot of other crap--in this case, a terrible block call.

[APG]

Originally Posted by drofficial

And we all agree that he O player traveled at the beginning of the move to the basket. Left foot is pivot foot, clealy picks up left foot before releasing ball to start dribble. Travel. Then he charged. This is a perfect example where if the travel rule were officiated as written, we could prevent a lot of other crap--in this case, a terrible block call.

You identified the wrong foot as the pivot foot. The right foot was the pivot foot in this play per NBA rules, and a case can be made (not that I'd judge it this way) that per NCAA/NF rules, the player didn't have a pivot foot (if you determined he gathered the ball with a foot on the floor).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by APG

You identified the wrong foot as the pivot foot. The right foot was the pivot foot in this play per NBA rules, and a case can be made (not that I'd judge it this way) that per NCAA/NF rules, the player didn't have a pivot foot (if you determined he gathered the ball with a foot on the floor).

He did the scissor-step before dribbling so I would have a travel in my games.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by drofficial

And we all agree that he O player traveled at the beginning of the move to the basket. Left foot is pivot foot, clealy picks up left foot before releasing ball to start dribble. Travel. Then he charged. This is a perfect example where if the travel rule were officiated as written, we could prevent a lot of other crap--in this case, a terrible block call.

Could be so kind as to tell us how the travelling rules are written for the NBA?

[APG]

Here's the play with slow motion at the end and an extra camera angle shown (the only other one they broadcasted):

[rekent]

Originally Posted by APG

You identified the wrong foot as the pivot foot. The right foot was the pivot foot in this play per NBA rules, and a case can be made (not that I'd judge it this way) that per NCAA/NF rules, the player didn't have a pivot foot (if you determined he gathered the ball with a foot on the floor).

Thank you, was just thinking the same thing.

And wasn't this horse beaten to death and beyond in the other thread?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by drofficial

And we all agree that he O player traveled at the beginning of the move to the basket. Left foot is pivot foot, clealy picks up left foot before releasing ball to start dribble. Travel. Then he charged. This is a perfect example where if the travel rule were officiated as written, we could prevent a lot of other crap--in this case, a terrible block call.

Not in the NBA. Methinks you should reread the travel rule.