Kentucky officials instructed to "tighten up" the game

[Rich]

There's no such thing as "let them play through it?" Really?

Not all contact is a foul. I get that the sport has become overly physical in some areas, but the coach that cautioned about the parade to the free throw line is right to a degree, too.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Rich

There's no such thing as "let them play through it?" Really?

Not all contact is a foul. I get that the sport has become overly physical in some areas, but the coach that cautioned about the parade to the free throw line is right to a degree, too.

The point is that there is no rule to "let them play through a foul." Let the incidental stuff go.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

The point is that there is no rule to "let them play through a foul." Let the incidental stuff go.

How do you tell the difference?

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Adam

How do you tell the difference?

Simply: contact that occurs that does not constitute a foul. 4-27

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Simply: contact that occurs that does not constitute a foul. 4-27

Contact that doesn't cause a disadvantage (or is, in my judgment excessive contact) isn't a foul.

You can't officiate advantage/disadvantage with a rule book citation.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Rich

Contact that doesn't cause a disadvantage (or is, in my judgment excessive contact) isn't a foul.

You can't officiate advantage/disadvantage with a rule book citation.

Now you don't want me to use a rule citation? Can't win on here.
P.S. if i didn't use a rule situation I would have said contact that doesn't cause a disadvantage should be considered incidental.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Contact that doesn't cause a disadvantage (or is, in my judgment excessive contact) isn't a foul.

You can't officiate advantage/disadvantage with a rule book citation.

Exactly what is a disadvantage?

What they're probably saying is too many officials are passing on too many fouls because they're not recognizing the disadvantage that is caused.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Exactly what is a disadvantage?

Really?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Simply: contact that occurs that does not constitute a foul. 4-27

Ok, so what's a foul? Otherwise we're bordering on circular reasoning.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Adam

Ok, so what's a foul? Otherwise we're bordering on circular reasoning.

Contact that affects rhythm, balance, speed or quickness of a ball handler. Contact that causes disadvantage. An example would be reaching. It is not a foul in and of itself. If contact occurs that affects RSBQ or causes the ball handler to lose control of the ball. This is a foul. If there is contact but the ball handler gets around and has no disadvantage, I will probably let it go.

Is that what you wanted me to answer? Give an example?

[JRutledge]

I really hate the terms "Calling the game tight" anyway because it suggests something that is not very clear. If they want things to be called then they need to do more training to suggest what is seen as a foul by the higher ups. Then they need to have the courage to support those officials and not support those officials that choose to not do what is suggested.

I just think HS organizations need to do more video training and show things that should be called or not called. Almost every game is on some video and there should be multiple plays used to help make it clear what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Contact that affects rhythm, balance, speed or quickness of a ball handler. Contact that causes disadvantage. An example would be reaching. It is not a foul in and of itself. If contact occurs that affects RSBQ or causes the ball handler to lose control of the ball. This is a foul. If there is contact but the ball handler gets around and has no disadvantage, I will probably let it go.

Is that what you wanted me to answer? Give an example?

I agree with this, the point was there is a rule that indicates if a player is able to play through contact, it's likely not a foul.